Curious to see...

I thought they were announced by this time last year, but I know the first time they were posted, they were all messed up and had to be taken down and posted again later. So maybe they are trying to do it right the first time this year.

I think the seedings and brackets will be posted at the AES JO site (not there yet): https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/VolleyballResults/

Judging by the reply someone has the seedings. Now we wait for our favorite east coast poster will let us know.

Every other year I had them by now. However usa vball took over a lot of things. AND i do not have them YET.

I know my one ref who is one of the head refs said he doesnt even have a court list of what matches will go where and where he can place certain refs. So he cant even assisgn refs to matches yet.

I see that the girls are up, and since they are basically the same days, we should be seeing the guys up soon.

The girls started play TODAY.

OK, this is getting ridiculous. I know a lot of 18s are flying out tomorrow morning and they can't even plan shuttles or anything cuz they don't know if they'll be playing in the morning or afternoon rounds.

Relax, until JVBB22 started posting the pools on here nobody knew what seed or what time they were playing until the meeting when coaches picked up thier packet the night before. That was only 3 years ago. Its not that big of a deal anyway assume you play at 8am & you have to beat whoever is in your pool no matter the seed. Every team has qualified so they should be good games. Good luck.

That was then this is now

Thanks ... but I'm not playing this year. I'm helping to coordinate an 18's team and some folks had to schedule planes that arrive late Tuesday night. I don't think it's asking to much to want to be able to tell them whether or not they can sleep in -- especially since we're west coast and we already lose 3 hours in the flight and especially because I really don't want to wait up for them until they get to the hotel after midnight if we play at 8:00.

Sounds like a group text problem to me? LOL

I still have nothing, SORRY

I know girls went up and was taken down the day before nationals and things were changed. Gets worse. They changed some pools from AM wave to PM wave LAST SECOND NOTICE. And parents bought tickets to all sorts of events. And then had to decide between watching there kids play or going to the event they paid for.


I did hear from a reliable source.

Boys Nationals Next season - Austin Texas. Dont quote it. But thats what im told.

Adults - Phoenix or Boston.

See everyone in a few days!

JB

Austin would be great. It was one of my favorite Nationals. It has a lot of good restaurants within walking distance, a good July 4th show, and decent weather

I am in Atlanta now and the posting will be tomorrow when registration opens at 9 AM Atlanta time. According to USAV at Adult Nationals this year next year will be in Phoenix. Austin would be great for the boys.

9 a.m. Atlanta time? Did you mean June 30 or July 1?

The link is up on advancedeventsystems but as of right now it only has 12,13, and 18 up. Check later on for all ages

Looks like they may be giving out only one bronze medal per age group this year....bummer.

Can someone post a link?

https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/Volley...AwMDAwMDAzODI90

still waiting for 17s brackets!

they'll have the 14s up before the 17s

Wow the seeding for most age groups is horrible

Agreed, the 16s seedings are quite weird...

where can i see the seedings?

Agree. I wonder what they went off of. It sure wasn't the classic

correct me if im wrong, but im not sure why missouri thunder is ranked 29 (at large bid) is ranked over west allis lighting 30 (qualified in st louis). i would have thought west allis would have been ranked a bit higher than that

Here's how bad the seedings for the 18s were:

- The first three "1" seeds went 3-0, but only one of the remaining six 1 seeds went 3-0.
- No "2" seed went 3-0, and only three of them went 2-1. The remaining six were either 1-2 or 0-3.
- Only two "4" seeds went 0-3

And this is the age group and division where supposedly the talent is best known!!

I wonder if that is why the 17s pools aren't up yet. Maybe they're trying to make it better....

... and three #3 seeds finished 1st.

The 18s Open seedings are crazy. It looks like they tried to mix it up so that some of the top teams that battled it out in the Classic were matched against each other again in first-round play. Some of the top CA teams were seeded at the bottom of the list and had really difficult first day pools. It's like the people doing the seeding wanted to have quite a few of the power CA teams challenged early despite doing well in the regular season.

If I read all of the sites right, BBay Quicksilver had the highest number of total points for 18s teams in the Southern California tournaments (finishing 2nd in the 18U to OCVC 17s) but MB Surf (who didn't even play in one mid-season points tournament) was seeded #1 at JOs -- the same MB Surf that finished ranked 14th in SCVA. Yes, 13 other teams finished ahead of them but they're seeded #1 at JOs?

OCVC who finished ranked 9th in SCVA was seeded #25. I know they put more emphasis on some tournaments (like the Classic) than they do on others to set the JO seedings, but OCVC finished 1st in their pool today over teams seeded 7th and 12th. North Shore, seeded first in Pool 7 and 7th overall, finished last and fell into the lower bracket and out of medal contention. It's too bad that those two were in the same pool so early in the tournament-- they've gone to 3 in every big tournament this year and North Shore won them all including today -- but North Shore finished 4th; OCVC 1st. Crazy.

But some CA teams were seeded pretty close to their final SCVA standings (Riptides seeded #9 - finished SCVA in 3rd; SMBC Black seeded #6 - finished SCVA in 4th; Highline seeded #3 - finished SCVA in 5th).

This is nuts.

And Pali .. jeeze ... defending champs pushed against Santa Barbara in the FIRST ROUND!! (a couple of years ago, weren't those same 2 teams in a semi final?). They finished 3rd in morning play and had to play an afternoon qualifier to still have a chance for a medal This is the first day! I know they lost a key player to a horrible looking injury, but it's still Pali and we're not used to seeing them fight for their lives just to make it to the top half of the teams.

No wonder they didn't post the seedings early -- the screaming would have been deafening.

USAV should be embarrassed with the pools. Santa Barbara a 3 seed in their pool and 26 overall, are you kidding me. They beat everyone in their pool. Totally unfair to everyone in their pool. It makes you wonder if certain people have connections and others do not. Hopefully JVDA will make these guys quit acting like the arrongant *sses they are.

Agree

I'm pretty sure that the way they seed it is through some computer program based on the results from the whole year so I don't think it's USAVs fault how it came out at all. All they are doing is punching in results to a computer. With results being the only thing counted, of won't matter if a team is missing the best player in the country for a tournament, only the final standing will count

and it is not like USAV actually knows that the team is missing their best player

Dono bout the 16s, but for 18s that happens because Adversity Elite finished way below Adversity Select in the Boys Classic.

BTW, disappointing showing by the Midwest. Only one team is in the final 12 and that is Ultimate who pretty much underachieved all year. What happened to Spri Mizuno/HiP/Adversity? Teams that were pretty much the so called heavyweights in the midwest.

Joe Kelly and Rob Samp gotta feel pretty good about leaving Spri now seeing as how they are finishing higher than them at JOs...

17s seeds r up, they are also quite odd...

I agree. some teams definetly got screwed

If you throw out the June 6 tournament that conflicted with CIF State Finals the numbers tally more in line- but would still think the BBay would be the #1 seed on points and winning the classic.

The 14's seeds are up also. This will be an amazingly competitve 14's tournament - but, that is what this tournament is all about. The seeds look fair to me.

True ... but MBSurf being entirely (?? or almost entirely) made up of one amazing high school team shouldn't give them preference to have that missing tournament "thrown out" of the seeding calculation. They took their chances when they put so many players from the same school team on one club team. Other club teams weren't given any special treatment because they had 2 or 3 players in CIF playoffs and ineligible to play points tournaments ... why should 1 team get such a deal? No preferential treatment should have been given. AND to get soft opposition for the first two days because of it just makes it worse. Other teams have been solid top 10 all year, played in every tournament, and were "rewarded" by facing other top 10 teams in the same pool from day 1.

Tomorrow should be interesting. MBSurf was in such lightweight pools that they haven't been challenged or lost a game -- and their opponents only scored more than 20 points in a total of 4 games. So are they going to be ready to face two teams who have had to play hard for 2 solid days? Their next two opponents have had to claw their way through extremely tough pools from day 1. Eden (seeded 34th) has had to go to 3 in the last 4 matches (out of 6) including against Riptides, Highline, STLHP and SPVB. And OCVC (seeded 25th) has also gone to 3 in 4 out of their 6 matches including Pali, North Shore, Bay to Bay and Surf City. It should be a good couple of games since only 2 of the 3 go onto the gold/silver round.

I also wish I could see the BBay Quicksilver game against Santa Barbara. BBay has had a really easy tournament too so let's see if they're ready for a battle cuz you know Santa Barbara is going to come out ready to kill.

the 17s are messed up a bit... but it is ok... I love our pool.... I really feel that if we paly well we have a chance to win it... but we'll see

Here are the teams (in no particular order) that are in the top 12 for 18's along with their original seeds.

MB Surf (1)
OCVC (25)
Eden (34)

Balboa Bay Qkslvr (2)
Santa Barbara (26)
Balboa Bay wht (10)

HighLine (3)
Seaside (23)
Ultimate (32)

Riptides (9)
Pali (8)
SMBC (6)

So, you have one of these pools with the 6,8,9 seeds overall which is okay if the other seeds where accurate. You have no 4, 5, 7, and no seeds between 11-22. You have 5 out of the twelve teams from seeds 23 and lower. As well as two teams that were seeded fourth in their pool.

OOOPPPSSS!

The tough question is...was this a result of teams being underseeded or an easier road due to overseeding. I think it is both. Easier road due to overranked teams, but also teams playing well.

Difficult to say alot of teams were not really forged until late in the year and some teams didn't really play well in this National Championship Event......and for some they were exposed for not being that strong to begin with.

I know for some of the East Coast Teams it has definitely been hitting all elements of the emotional spectrum. LI never got on track. Yorktowne was not happy with their showing and Pace showed signs of being a really good team but struggled with consistency.

Eden finally has an entire team for the first time this year and are executing a very high level. They got caught in a killer pool today with HP SPRI and Riptides. it was just one physical match after another with every match except one going to 3.

Eden has pushed into gold before in the 18's and I think they will match up well with both OCVC and MB. Should be interesting.

PRedictions

MB
Eden
Balboa
Balboa
Seaside
Highline
Riptides
Pali

Advance.......roll the dice.

After this mornings games , the Gold bracket is:

MB
Balboa
Balboa
Eden
Seaside
Riptides
Highline
Pali

Looks like you were right on. Is that a 7 California and 1 NY Team Gold bracket I think? Hats off to these 8 teams . Will be a great 4th of July matchup.

On a roll- Here is the prediction!

MB Surf 18's (SC) (1) MB WIN

Balboa Bay 18White (SC) (8)


Seaside 18-Black (SC) (5) Seaside WIN

Riptides OC 18 Asics (SC) (4)

High Line 2008-09 18B (SC) (3) PALI Win
Pali 18 Kaepa (SC) (6)

Eden Mizuno WE - (7) Eden Win

Balboa Bay 18Quiksilv (SC)

Looks like it's Balboa Quicksilver and Riptides for the 18 open championship, anyone know if this is being streamed live?

MB Surf lost to Pali for third place.
any updates on the championship? Anyone, anyone, ...Bueller?

riptides won in two

Congrats to riptides, I'm happy for Arik Metzger. I wonder who made all tournament.

i dont think metzger played at all at JOs

Ahhh not so good the next time , but close. Congrats to all teams especially a hats off to Eden , pulling from a 34th seed to play with the big boys. great job to all.

From what what I heard, they are only "officially" taping 17's and 14's finals. However, someone also said that a guy from USA Volleyball was taping it to post online somewhere. Maybe it was the guy from Middlehitter.com?