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IntensityVball
The teams playing at the Jr. Boy's Classic are posted on the SCVA websiste.

http://www.scvavolleyball.org/boys_jr_classic.htm

Who are the favorites?

14's - Highline, OCVC, Torrimar, ???
15's - SCVC, Balboa, NSMVC, ???
16's - Balboa, MB Surf, SCVC, ???
17's - OCVC, (will anyone challenge them)???
18's - OC Riptides, MB Surf, ???
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(IntensityVball @ Jun 11 2009, 03:19 PM) *

The teams playing at the Jr. Boy's Classic are posted on the SCVA websiste.

http://www.scvavolleyball.org/boys_jr_classic.htm

Who are the favorites?

14's - Highline, OCVC, Torrimar, ???
15's - SCVC, Balboa, NSMVC, ???
16's - Balboa, MB Surf, SCVC, ???
17's - OCVC, (will anyone challenge them)???
18's - OC Riptides, MB Surf, ???


For 14s I'd add a few others, not sure who, but I know OCVC dropped to division 1B for a while so they obviously have more competition than that.

15s is about right. I doubt NSMVC will beat Balboa or SCVC. I don't think anyone will really challenge them except each other. It's a given that they'll go to the finals, it's just not definite who will win. So far this season they've met 3 times and SCVC's won twice. Oddly enough they've only had one match close at all, the other two they each killed each other (both beat each other around 25-12 I believe).

For 16s there isn't much else you could say, unless Pace is coming all the way to Anaheim, then there's some more challenge. Seaside could pose a threat if teams don't serve tough against them, but other than that they don't have much of a chance. SCVC seems to always pull of the big matches, they've won the Holiday Classic and Boys Invitational. But MB Surf and Balboa are both just as strong squads. This is the hardest age to make a definite guess on. Also, anyone know when Cody Caldwell is gonna be back?

17s, OCVC are the obvious favorites. They took 5th in the Invitational, though part of that can be credited to Taylor Sander's injury during it, but it does show that they aren't untouchable.

18s, pretty much just what you said. MB Surf and OC Riptides are the clear favorites, although I'm sure Balboa's 18s and some others could pose a threat. Not completely predictable, but I do think MB Surf's players are coming off a stronger season, most of them having won CIF Division I and Regionals at Loyola, Evan Licht coming off a 3rd in CIF DI at Costa, and they will have McKibbin to play in this tournament, so I think they're the favorites.

All in all, my predictions are:

14s- High Line
15s- SCVC
16s- SCVC
17s- OCVC
18s- MB Surf
WIbouncer8
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 11 2009, 04:59 PM) *

For 14s I'd add a few others, not sure who, but I know OCVC dropped to division 1B for a while so they obviously have more competition than that.

15s is about right. I doubt NSMVC will beat Balboa or SCVC. I don't think anyone will really challenge them except each other. It's a given that they'll go to the finals, it's just not definite who will win. So far this season they've met 3 times and SCVC's won twice. Oddly enough they've only had one match close at all, the other two they each killed each other (both beat each other around 25-12 I believe).

For 16s there isn't much else you could say, unless Pace is coming all the way to Anaheim, then there's some more challenge. Seaside could pose a threat if teams don't serve tough against them, but other than that they don't have much of a chance. SCVC seems to always pull of the big matches, they've won the Holiday Classic and Boys Invitational. But MB Surf and Balboa are both just as strong squads. This is the hardest age to make a definite guess on. Also, anyone know when Cody Caldwell is gonna be back?

17s, OCVC are the obvious favorites. They took 5th in the Invitational, though part of that can be credited to Taylor Sander's injury during it, but it does show that they aren't untouchable.

18s, pretty much just what you said. MB Surf and OC Riptides are the clear favorites, although I'm sure Balboa's 18s and some others could pose a threat. Not completely predictable, but I do think MB Surf's players are coming off a stronger season, most of them having won CIF Division I and Regionals at Loyola, Evan Licht coming off a 3rd in CIF DI at Costa, and they will have McKibbin to play in this tournament, so I think they're the favorites.

All in all, my predictions are:

14s- High Line
15s- SCVC
16s- SCVC
17s- OCVC
18s- MB Surf


What Midwestern teams are going? They all get owned at this tourney but I'm just curious because mine isn't going this year...
IntensityVball
QUOTE(WIbouncer8 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:36 AM) *

What Midwestern teams are going? They all get owned at this tourney but I'm just curious because mine isn't going this year...


From the Midwest you have . . .

Adversity 18 (2 teams), 17, 16, 15
MO Thunder 17
NSMVC 18, 16, 15, 14
STLHP 18 (2 teams), 17, 16, 15, 14
Ultimate 17, 16
WA Lightning 17, 16, 15

Are any of these teams any good? And, by the way, the STLHP 15 team looks to be their Navy team rather than their Orange team.
WIbouncer8
QUOTE(IntensityVball @ Jun 12 2009, 09:01 PM) *

From the Midwest you have . . .

Adversity 18 (2 teams), 17, 16, 15
MO Thunder 17
NSMVC 18, 16, 15, 14
STLHP 18 (2 teams), 17, 16, 15, 14
Ultimate 17, 16
WA Lightning 17, 16, 15

Are any of these teams any good? And, by the way, the STLHP 15 team looks to be their Navy team rather than their Orange team.

Adversitys not bad NSMVC 18s is pretty good, Ultimate 17's and WAL 17s good also
vbstudmiddle
Ultimate 17's are looking to defend their title from last year!! hahahaha i still dunno how they won that... but its not happening again this year haha
Gatornation
the pools are should up by 4 or 5 pm today
racoon1
QUOTE(winninnats @ Jun 15 2009, 06:57 PM) *

the flow charts are up but i don't see the pools yet. will they not put up the pools on advancedsystems until the tournament starts? is there anywhere else we can find them?



Pools are up.
steve the pirate
QUOTE(racoon1 @ Jun 16 2009, 03:35 PM) *

Pools are up.

does anyone know when 17's or 18's pools will be up
HvALibero22
17s and 18s pools are up as of this morning.
cubdude21
QUOTE(WIbouncer8 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:35 PM) *

Adversitys not bad NSMVC 18s is pretty good, Ultimate 17's and WAL 17s good also



Id say adversity elite or stl hi p orange is prolly the best midwest team here, they could both finish in gold i think
IntensityVball
QUOTE(cubdude21 @ Jun 17 2009, 11:44 AM) *

Id say adversity elite or stl hi p orange is prolly the best midwest team here, they could both finish in gold i think

How are the younger (15's / 14's) midwest teams? We'll see later today as the first day of the tournament kicks off. It looks like NSMVC is seeded 3rd and WA Lightning seeded 5th in the 15's. And, it looks like NSMVC is seeded 2nd in the 14's.
theCougar70
does anyone have results of the tournament or know where i can find them
Vballer4321
QUOTE(theCougar70 @ Jun 19 2009, 05:19 PM) *

does anyone have results of the tournament or know where i can find them

https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/Volley...AwMDAwMDAwNzI90
oc3libero
just scrolling through scores- ocvc 17s won a game 25-2? thats funny
FHSballlerr
QUOTE(IntensityVball @ Jun 19 2009, 09:03 AM) *

How are the younger (15's / 14's) midwest teams? We'll see later today as the first day of the tournament kicks off. It looks like NSMVC is seeded 3rd and WA Lightning seeded 5th in the 15's. And, it looks like NSMVC is seeded 2nd in the 14's.


NSMVC 15s are pretty good, they have great ball control. i think they beat Lightning 15s all 4 times this year but all of their matches went to 3. Lightning 15s just picked up another huge hitter, he was our outside for the year (southwest 16s) until we didnt get an at large. it should be interesting how lightning does with him
olderthankarch
QUOTE(oc3libero @ Jun 19 2009, 06:07 PM) *

just scrolling through scores- ocvc 17s won a game 25-2? thats funny

second set was much closer however 25-7
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(oc3libero @ Jun 19 2009, 08:07 PM) *

just scrolling through scores- ocvc 17s won a game 25-2? thats funny


Nobody cares about 14s, but thought it might get some laughs.

SCVC 14 QS def. Riptides OC 12s- 25-0, 25-5

Never seen a 25-0 game in my life.
ocriptidesvbc
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 20 2009, 01:17 AM) *

Nobody cares about 14s, but thought it might get some laughs.

SCVC 14 QS def. Riptides OC 12s- 25-0, 25-5

Never seen a 25-0 game in my life.


Did you also know that SCVC played there starting lineup against 1-(9 year old), 2- (10 year olds), 1- (11-year old) and 2- 12s. If you want to laugh, how does a "top five team" in 14s give up 5 points against a team with an average age of 10.5 years old and no blocking?

mwvbcoach
QUOTE(oc3libero @ Jun 19 2009, 08:07 PM) *

just scrolling through scores- ocvc 17s won a game 25-2? thats funny


Less funny: The two highest seeded Midwest 17s teams -- WA Lightning (#2) and Missouri Thunder (#8) have already been sent to the Bronze bracket. Defending champ Ultimate Gold (#13) is the only non-California team among the 12 in Gold/Silver.

jbvb22
Look at North shore taking 1st in there pool today.. GO MIDWEST!!
VBGator
QUOTE(jbvb22 @ Jun 20 2009, 05:16 PM) *

Look at North shore taking 1st in there pool today.. GO MIDWEST!!

First match: North Shore v. Riptides. That was one of the best matches I've ever seen. It was really one of those that you didn't want either team to lose. 8 am the second day of a tournament was a tough time to play such a difficult match. Had it been Sunday or Monday, there would have been 200 people around the court. As word spread that it was going to 3, a few folks lined the court but I know more wished they had. Great play on both sides of the net. And I was glad to see both the up and down refs were paid officials ... except one kid on North Shore was yellow-carded after McKay made a power kill ... not sure what was said, but it was just such an emotional match I wish the ref would have kept the card in his pocket and just understood. I'm sure McKay could relate!
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(ocriptidesvbc @ Jun 20 2009, 11:55 AM) *

Did you also know that SCVC played there starting lineup against 1-(9 year old), 2- (10 year olds), 1- (11-year old) and 2- 12s. If you want to laugh, how does a "top five team" in 14s give up 5 points against a team with an average age of 10.5 years old and no blocking?


They didn't play their starting line up against them, their usual libero was the one who served the whole first game. And it's called making unforced errors. Everyone does it. Missed serves, double touches, lifts, hitting in the net or out.
ocriptidesvbc
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 21 2009, 01:46 AM) *

They didn't play their starting line up against them, their usual libero was the one who served the whole first game. And it's called making unforced errors. Everyone does it. Missed serves, double touches, lifts, hitting in the net or out.



Looks like someone is a little sensitive about making mistakes to a bunch of third, fourth and fifth graders. It's OK, I'm sure everyone understands.
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(ocriptidesvbc @ Jun 21 2009, 10:44 AM) *

Looks like someone is a little sensitive about making mistakes to a bunch of third, fourth and fifth graders. It's OK, I'm sure everyone understands.


I'm not on SCVC 14 QS so I dunno how I'm sensitive, and ya I'll admit it's a bit sad losing any points, but it's understandable. I was just posting the 25-0 because I've never seen it before.
wiscovball
QUOTE(jbvb22 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:16 PM) *

Look at North shore taking 1st in there pool today.. GO MIDWEST!!


They took all 3 matches on Sunday as well. This is largely the same team that took 2nd in Natl's as 16's and the are extremely dangerous when they want to be . Nothing this team does should surprise anyone. Way to REPRESENT !!
number254
in the 15s bracket, stl hi-p navy took scvc to three, looks like the midwest teams can compete with the californian teams.
Checksassipop
QUOTE(mwvbcoach @ Jun 20 2009, 06:35 PM) *

Less funny: The two highest seeded Midwest 17s teams -- WA Lightning (#2) and Missouri Thunder (#8) have already been sent to the Bronze bracket. Defending champ Ultimate Gold (#13) is the only non-California team among the 12 in Gold/Silver.

Ultimate Gold just made it to Gold ... top 6
tLovevb
Hows hi p 18 orange and adversity 18s doing?
9Volleyball0
QUOTE(tLovevb @ Jun 21 2009, 05:27 PM) *

Hows hi p 18 orange and adversity 18s doing?


North Shore and Hi-P are representing the Midwest in Gold while Adversity is in the Silver Bracket.
mwvbcoach
QUOTE(Checksassipop @ Jun 21 2009, 05:18 PM) *

Ultimate Gold just made it to Gold ... top 6


Go Ultimate!

Here's an anomaly: After 3 days of pool play, WAL 17's are 8-1 in matches and 16-4 in sets played. Only OCVC has a better record (9-0, 18-1). Yet WAL is in bronze and cannot finish higher than 13th. Doesn't seem right . . .
VBGator
QUOTE(wiscovball @ Jun 21 2009, 01:39 PM) *

They took all 3 matches on Sunday as well. This is largely the same team that took 2nd in Natl's as 16's and the are extremely dangerous when they want to be . Nothing this team does should surprise anyone. Way to REPRESENT !!

North Shore has been playing great and even though I'm from CA, it's good to see someone outside of CA do so well. It's easier to say that since I'm not playing this year. Although they had to go to 3 in 3 out of their first 5 "easier" matches, they've only had to do it once in the last 4 - last match of the day against OCVC 18-1s. It was a great match between the players. Horrible officiating impacted OCVC - but North Shore probably would have won anyway.

That was one of the worst ref'd matches I've seen in a long time. I'm usually easy on the refs -- they're human, going to make mistakes, hard job and you can't make everyone happy. But a huge number of inconsistent calls -- and almost all going against OCVC -- made the game ugly. One example - they actually made a rotation call in the 3rd game -- score close -- because an OCVC guy waited to move on the serve but moved before the ball crossed the net. No problem if they would have called that each time BOTH teams did it. Of course, they'd have to call it on almost every team on every point. That's the stuff that is just not right. Call it even and guys are ok with it. But it turns into a mind game when it's so unevenly called.

One small issue: the junior NSVBC guys on the sidelines need to grow up. Near the end of the 3rd game, score close, they started screaming out just as OCVC served. Now, that happens in college -- they expect it and it rattled USC in the national championship game this year. But in club, most teams know that that is low class, unnecessary especially when you're winning, and shows a lack of discipline on the part of their coaches. Grow up guys. Have some class and respect for a great opponent. Cheer your guts out after the point.

NSVBC definitely was the best team of the day on A1. It should be interesting on Monday. MB Surf has come out of a more difficult pool, won every game, and only went to 3 once against Riptides. North Shore can't afford to start slow like it did against OCVC. It's one and done and it should be a great game.
FHSballlerr
QUOTE(VBGator @ Jun 21 2009, 07:17 PM) *

One small issue: the junior NSVBC guys on the sidelines need to grow up. Near the end of the 3rd game, score close, they started screaming out just as OCVC served. Now, that happens in college -- they expect it and it rattled USC in the national championship game this year. But in club, most teams know that that is low class, unnecessary especially when you're winning, and shows a lack of discipline on the part of their coaches. Grow up guys. Have some class and respect for a great opponent. Cheer your guts out after the point.


i disagree with that, there trying to win a huge game and its not like its against the rules so whats there to stop it. its the heat of the moment and i bet the last thing they care about is whether they are low or high class on the bench. as long as there not breaking any rules, i dont see a problem in it
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(number254 @ Jun 21 2009, 04:47 PM) *

in the 15s bracket, stl hi-p navy took scvc to three, looks like the midwest teams can compete with the californian teams.


West Allis beat SCVC. SCVC played a ****** game, but it doesn't take away anything from a huge upset. Balboa Bay also lost to MB Surf, the top two teams both got upset. And on court A2 in the 18s, Pali beat MB Surf. Tons of upsets today.
Volleyball Player
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 22 2009, 01:39 AM) *

West Allis beat SCVC. SCVC played a ****** game, but it doesn't take away anything from a huge upset. Balboa Bay also lost to MB Surf, the top two teams both got upset. And on court A2 in the 18s, Pali beat MB Surf. Tons of upsets today.


Yeah Pace took a game of Balboa Bay and West Allis, this is weird because the west coast teams aren't that good compared to the Western teams. Maybe this shows how competetive the BJOVC will be this year.

Do yall agree?
mwvbcoach
Looking at the Gold brackets, it appears that Midwest teams hold 1 of 8 spots at 14's (North Shore); 2 of 6 spots at 15's (North Shore and West Allis); 2 of 12 spots at 16's (Ultimate Gold and St. Louis Hi Perf, but they play each other first game); 1 of 6 spots at 17's (Ultimate Gold); and 2 of 8 spots at 18's (North Shore and St. Louis Hi Perf).

Overall, that's 8 of the 40 Gold spots, or 20%, to the Midwest. Not bad. Of the other 32 spots, 30 went to SoCal and 2 to NorCal.

Kudos to North Shore, which sent 4 teams with 3 making it to Gold.
jbvb22
I think there are going to be some tough 18s teams from the East Coast this year..

Six Pack is Huge with plenty of offense

Ytowne is big with plenty of offense "with there additions" and lots of defense.

Pace- Will be 10 times better with its additions.

Eden- Looked solid.

Mac from Canada is solid with a quick offense... Will see how they do.


17s - at Ytowne. 6'9 Oh, 6'5 Oh, 6'3 mh, 6'7 mh, 6'4 opp.


The Dude
QUOTE(winninnats @ Jun 22 2009, 08:38 AM) *

what's wrong with that? does that not happen in big matches for high school volleyball? the california teams should have their other teams stay and cheer on their older teams. it makes the match more fun to watch and more fun to play in. were they yelling personal insults at the ocvc players? if not, i don't understand how you can label that disrespectful. we're not playing golf here, it doesn't have to be silent while a player plays the ball. i would love to see more of that in volleyball.

There is a difference between cheering for your team and yelling "noonan" right when someone serves. It is just a juvenile way of cheering for your team. It is definitely more fun to have lively crowds, but there are classy ways of cheering and cheap ways to try and get points for your team. No we're not talking about golf here, but I'd like to think that vb players are a little cooler than that. Stay classy vballers.
mwvbcoach
Well, final 4 for each age group are now set -- all SoCal teams in 14's, 17's and 18's, 3 of 4 in 15's (plus West Allis, via bye, but lost in semis) and 16's (plus Ultimate Gold). But still a good overall showing by the Midwest. Several teams exited with 2-point losses in third games. Maybe Ultimate 16's can still take the title?
number254
i think that all the california teams should watch out at nationals, it looks as if the best midwestern teams can compete with them, i think a lot of the california teams are a little overrated, and the midwestern teams underrated, especially at the younger divisions(14s,15s,16s).
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(number254 @ Jun 22 2009, 04:39 PM) *

i think that all the california teams should watch out at nationals, it looks as if the best midwestern teams can compete with them, i think a lot of the california teams are a little overrated, and the midwestern teams underrated, especially at the younger divisions(14s,15s,16s).


In the 15s and 16s I see some competition from the Midwest, not so much for the 14s.

And in the 15s, in case anyone was wondering, SCVC beat NSMVC in the quarters, OCVC upset Balboa in the quarters, SCVC beat MB Surf in the semis while OCVC also upset West Allis, then went on to get crushed in the finals by SCVC (25-15, 25-14). Not totally sure how West Allis beat SCVC then lost to OCVC who they crushed, but we'll have to wait for JOs for WA and SCVC to meet up again, for West Allis to show that it wasn't just luck, or for SCVC to prove it was just an off game.

In 16s, Balboa Bay is playing Ultimate now. Balboa took a close match to 3 over SCVC, same with Seaside and Ultimate. Pretty sure Balboa's gonna take this one, though they have something to worry about it seeing that Ultimate beat MB Surf.

17s, OCVC and Riptides OC playing, not too shocking.

18s Balboa Bay and MB Surf are playing, should be close.
jacobeach
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 22 2009, 04:53 PM) *

In the 15s and 16s I see some competition from the Midwest, not so much for the 14s.

And in the 15s, in case anyone was wondering, SCVC beat NSMVC in the quarters, OCVC upset Balboa in the quarters, SCVC beat MB Surf in the semis while OCVC also upset West Allis, then went on to get crushed in the finals by SCVC (25-15, 25-14). Not totally sure how West Allis beat SCVC then lost to OCVC who they crushed, but we'll have to wait for JOs for WA and SCVC to meet up again, for West Allis to show that it wasn't just luck, or for SCVC to prove it was just an off game.

In 16s, Balboa Bay is playing Ultimate now. Balboa took a close match to 3 over SCVC, same with Seaside and Ultimate. Pretty sure Balboa's gonna take this one, though they have something to worry about it seeing that Ultimate beat MB Surf.

17s, OCVC and Riptides OC playing, not too shocking.

18s Balboa Bay and MB Surf are playing, should be close.


Game 1 --16's: Balboa Bay 25-23
number254
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 22 2009, 04:53 PM) *

In the 15s and 16s I see some competition from the Midwest, not so much for the 14s.

And in the 15s, in case anyone was wondering, SCVC beat NSMVC in the quarters, OCVC upset Balboa in the quarters, SCVC beat MB Surf in the semis while OCVC also upset West Allis, then went on to get crushed in the finals by SCVC (25-15, 25-14). Not totally sure how West Allis beat SCVC then lost to OCVC who they crushed, but we'll have to wait for JOs for WA and SCVC to meet up again, for West Allis to show that it wasn't just luck, or for SCVC to prove it was just an off game.

In 16s, Balboa Bay is playing Ultimate now. Balboa took a close match to 3 over SCVC, same with Seaside and Ultimate. Pretty sure Balboa's gonna take this one, though they have something to worry about it seeing that Ultimate beat MB Surf.

17s, OCVC and Riptides OC playing, not too shocking.

18s Balboa Bay and MB Surf are playing, should be close.


for the 15s WA and northshore arent even the best teams from the midwest, from watching the tournament in chicago there is still hiP 15 orange( hiP15 navy is the 2nd team) and even sports peformance gave WA, NSMVC a run for their money.
jacobeach
QUOTE(jacobeach @ Jun 22 2009, 05:35 PM) *

Game 1 --16's: Balboa Bay 25-23


16's finals:
Balboa Bay over Ultimate 25-23, 25-20

Congrats to both teams.

Good showing from the kids from the south side of Chicago!
Vballer4321
In 17s Riptides OC defeats OCVC 15-25, 25-20, 15-10. This is the second time that Riptides OC has beat OCVC this year. Guess OCVC isn't unstoppable. Congrats to Riptides
theterribletowel94
How did OCVC 17s beat epic 25-7 in the semifinals of gold? That is just rediculous for a game that is supposed to be two of the best few teams in the west.
vbsettersd
The score is wrong. It was 25-17 at the worst. Good match. Epic beat OCVC last weekend. Two starting players playing basketball in San Diego while playing in the tourney. Should be more refreshed for JO's.
ocvc17's
QUOTE(my_name_a_Borat @ Jun 22 2009, 02:53 PM) *

In the 15s and 16s I see some competition from the Midwest, not so much for the 14s.

And in the 15s, in case anyone was wondering, SCVC beat NSMVC in the quarters, OCVC upset Balboa in the quarters, SCVC beat MB Surf in the semis while OCVC also upset West Allis, then went on to get crushed in the finals by SCVC (25-15, 25-14). Not totally sure how West Allis beat SCVC then lost to OCVC who they crushed, but we'll have to wait for JOs for WA and SCVC to meet up again, for West Allis to show that it wasn't just luck, or for SCVC to prove it was just an off game.

In 16s, Balboa Bay is playing Ultimate now. Balboa took a close match to 3 over SCVC, same with Seaside and Ultimate. Pretty sure Balboa's gonna take this one, though they have something to worry about it seeing that Ultimate beat MB Surf.

17s, OCVC and Riptides OC playing, not too shocking.

18s Balboa Bay and MB Surf are playing, should be close.

Balboa Bay narrowly defeated MB Surf in three 22-25, 30-28, 15-9 or at least that's what I think
my_name_a_Borat
QUOTE(number254 @ Jun 22 2009, 05:43 PM) *

for the 15s WA and northshore arent even the best teams from the midwest, from watching the tournament in chicago there is still hiP 15 orange( hiP15 navy is the 2nd team) and even sports peformance gave WA, NSMVC a run for their money.


From what I've heard, and based on the 14s teams last year, NSMVC is the best team out of the Midwest in 15s. West Allis is more offensive but NSMVC plays good defense and makes the other team work. I wouldn't doubt that Hi P 15-1s are as good as the two, as their 15-2s took SCVC, Balboa Bay, MB Surf, and others to 3. It wasn't usually clean wins though, a lot of weird stuff came from them, screwing the other team up on off speed shots. Still, it'll be interesting to see how High Performance will come up against top teams of So Cal at JOs.
theterribletowel94
QUOTE(vbsettersd @ Jun 22 2009, 08:14 PM) *

The score is wrong. It was 25-17 at the worst. Good match. Epic beat OCVC last weekend. Two starting players playing basketball in San Diego while playing in the tourney. Should be more refreshed for JO's.

Oh ok that makes a little more sense. Advanced event systems said it was 25-7. And yea I heard that epic beat the like a week ago an that's why I was so supprised
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