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IL_VB_DAD
Can you spot what's wrong in this story line?
"The hhhh also beat bbbbb 25-14, 25-13 May 14 behind M(6 kills, 5 blocks, 9 assists), D(12 assists), W(5 kills, 3 blocks) and A(4 kills, 10 blocks). "

A block occurs when you prevent the opposing team from inbounding the ball into your court AND score a point off of it.

Me thinks the stats scribers need some edumacation.
cubdude21
QUOTE(IL_VB_DAD @ Jun 2 2009, 02:11 PM) *

Can you spot what's wrong in this story line?
"The hhhh also beat bbbbb 25-14, 25-13 May 14 behind M(6 kills, 5 blocks, 9 assists), D(12 assists), W(5 kills, 3 blocks) and A(4 kills, 10 blocks). "

A block occurs when you prevent the opposing team from inbounding the ball into your court AND score a point off of it.

Me thinks the stats scribers need some edumacation.



i dont get it... the total of the blocks and kills are way less than 50
IL_VB_DAD
QUOTE(cubdude21 @ Jun 2 2009, 02:47 PM) *

i dont get it... the total of the blocks and kills are way less than 50


And thus we are assuming that a team that gets beaten 'badly' (25-13, 25-14) has no ball handling errors of their own, doesn't miss any serves, never hits an attack or free three out, no digs die, doesn't hit one into the roof, no net/back row/step over the line violations, etc. and only three players on the winning team account for almost all 50 points (you'd think these three would have an ace or two as well)? One team in the IL DVC had a single player register 16 blocks in a 2 game match last year.

If you are getting 2-3 blocks per game this would be considered phenomenal. At the collegiate or professional this would be MVP performance.... 1.5 blocks per set is superbly excellent. 10 blocks in 2 games at the high school level? I'm skeptical.

At some point a team 'control's the block and a ball handling error or missed attack shouldn't be considered a 'block'...even though the returning block can be tough to dig up and track down.

stats in volleyball
Add these up, should total number of points scored in a set:
Kills
Aces
Blocks
Opponents missed serves
Opponents missed attacks (out, under, played too far off court, antenna, roof touch and goes over net)
Opponents violations (net, line, back row, interference with setter, moving prior to serve)
Opponents ball handling errors ( 4 hits, double hits, lifts, carries, illegal body parts (below the knee in IL))
Substitution errors, rotation errors.
Robbed by Ref's bad call
Opponents Yellow card
Any that I missed?
______________
Total Points in a set
WisDad
If my quick math is correct the blocks and Kills listed equals 33 that leaves 17 points left for points scored in other fashions. If you figure the 21 assists listed that means other players accounted for at least 6 more kills which brings that number down to 11 points not accounted for by this threesome. The strange thing is that if they run a 6-2 (two kids getting a lot of assists sounds like this is true) these may be the three good players on the team and the ball was run through them for the match it may not be that unrealistic.
TheRealFreshPrince
do you guys have ANYTHING better to do..
Ballin27
While on this topic...
Look at how many blocks the top 5 guys on Marist have..
http://www.ihsa.org/activity/vbb/2008-09/1info8.htm

And then look at the top 5 guys on WWS...
http://www.ihsa.org/activity/vbb/2008-09/1info2.htm

Those Marist block stats are DEFINITELY not accurate! How in the world do 5 players have over 100 blocks! With two just at about 200.
bluewarrior19
hahaha the marist link says that nick mcnaully (sp?) had 86 blocks in a single match.
Setanddig
I read an article this morning that said that a St. Rita player had something like 20 blocks last night and another had like 18....ridiculous...that makes those coaches that report stats like that, look like idiots!

Stats are hard to make accurate for anyone, but to blow them up like that is ridiculous...


QUOTE(bluewarrior19 @ Jun 3 2009, 12:10 PM) *

hahaha the marist link says that nick mcnaully (sp?) had 86 blocks in a single match.

redhawk11
I know some teams still count a block as every time you block it to the other side, regardless of a point or not. I could really care less. Not sure why it makes a big deal. Sure when your looking for like all conference and stuff that stands out, but committees will obviously realize that they just took the stats the wrong way.
tLovevb
[quote name='IL_VB_DAD' date='Jun 2 2009, 03:15 PM' post='141153']
And thus we are assuming that a team that gets beaten 'badly' (25-13, 25-14) has no ball handling errors of their own, doesn't miss any serves, never hits an attack or free three out, no digs die, doesn't hit one into the roof, no net/back row/step over the line violations, etc. and only three players on the winning team account for almost all 50 points (you'd think these three would have an ace or two as well)? One team in the IL DVC had a single player register 16 blocks in a 2 game match last year.

If you are getting 2-3 blocks per game this would be considered phenomenal. At the collegiate or professional this would be MVP performance.... 1.5 blocks per set is superbly excellent. 10 blocks in 2 games at the high school level? I'm skeptical.


I think i remember Piotr Dabrowski last year against Naperville North get likes 14 blocks in a two game match. Who was that player tho last year who got 16 blocks tho or was it Piotr?
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