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croz
how about loyola at the lake forest tournament. split the two matches with bg. actually i think they're the better team. looks like loyola's opposite tired out in the third game of the title match. loyola should definitely be ranked in the top ten. they lost their first match against vernon hills because their best player reis foster didn't play.
dime21
QUOTE(croz @ Apr 26 2009, 03:57 PM) *

how about loyola at the lake forest tournament. split the two matches with bg. actually i think they're the better team. looks like loyola's opposite tired out in the third game of the title match. loyola should definitely be ranked in the top ten. they lost their first match against vernon hills because their best player reis foster didn't play.


They play Rita on tuesday so well have to see what happens then.
MBtallman
QUOTE(croz @ Apr 26 2009, 02:57 PM) *

how about loyola at the lake forest tournament. split the two matches with bg. actually i think they're the better team. looks like loyola's opposite tired out in the third game of the title match. loyola should definitely be ranked in the top ten. they lost their first match against vernon hills because their best player reis foster didn't play.

BG is much better.
I played both and as a middle, much harder to defend BG.
Loyola is much better then I thought they would be though
Vballstud10
Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.
cubdude21
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.



Im not sure how you can call Loyola the "best offenseive team in state" when you openly admit you dont know anything about the two best teams in state, and probably havent seen either of them play.
Vballstud10
QUOTE(cubdude21 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:05 PM) *

Im not sure how you can call Loyola the "best offenseive team in state" when you openly admit you dont know anything about the two best teams in state, and probably havent seen either of them play.

Havent seen them yet but ive seen everyone else in the top...7. i guess for the time being ill just say top 3 offesnive team in state and i would have them in my top 5. but, im biased, so...whatever
dime21
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.


Haha. ok safe to say that you go to loyola because no one from an opposing team would say these kinds of things. If loyola has all of these "bests" then how are they not ranked? Also beating Providence and Rice doesnt deserve any type of an award. I haven't even seeny you guys play but I can garuntee you that your RS isn't the best in the state.
Vballa15
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.


Bold statements...
Loyola is definitely not the best offensive team in the state (GBE, WWS, GBN, BG, Sandburg are 10X better)
No one knows who your right side is, guarantee his arm swing isn't deadly it's never killed someone.
BG probably beat you the second time because they actually woke up and played
Without Elias... Loyola isn't much
vballfan8
Yeah, Loyola definitely isn't even close to being the best offensive team in state. It's just not true. The poster probably hasn't seen any better teams and is too blind to see that BG is miles ahead in all aspects of the game.
Vballstud10
Ya, I agree that they really hadnt been tested untill BG, Providence is actually decent but obviously a down year. Loyola also beat Ignatius...in case anyone thinks theyre good....theyre not but the papers had them in "other teams on the radar". so I guess the judges are still out on them but they have all the tools. If they flop against Rita thatd make me look pretty stupid so we'll see. and no, i dont go to Loyola...id rather not say where i go cuz we're awful, haha. in fact, im gonna stop talking about Loyola, b.c. it prolly is weird that i know so much.

again i want to amend that statement that they are the best b.c. that was pretty ignorant to say but they are better OFFENSIVELY than BG id say. BG has no middles. I want to see Loyola play BG again b.c. both those matches were sweet. I wont be there cuz its way far but if you dont believe me you should go see Loyola St. Rita on Tuesday.
vball4life
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.

Saying pat barry is prolly the best rightside in state is the stupidest comment I've ever heard. MARK JONES!!! MARK FRICKIN JONES!!! Hes played on spri frickin mizuno 18s as a junior. Hell any rightside starting on an elite 18s club is better than him. Also "losing to vernon hills cause Reis wasn't playing" proves that loyola isn't top ten worthy. Multiple teams throughout state have beaten unranked teams without their best player, y can't loyola????? But yes elias is awesome
vballfan8
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 09:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in state. I know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.



Another thing, Reis Foster is NOT one of the best outsides in state. I could probably name you 10 OH better than him.

lovik, nystrom, mueller, wrather, falknor, williams, hutziga, carrington, brady, those two sandburg kids

theres 11 off the top of ma head. and for RIGHSIDES how bout JOE SMALZER, MARK JONES, even the buffalo grove kid, baronti or shanahan are BOTH better than pat berry. whatever man, you dont know jack. go root for loyola all day son. peace

elias is good tho
mustangs
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 10:28 PM) *

Ya, I agree that they really hadnt been tested untill BG, Providence is actually decent but obviously a down year. Loyola also beat Ignatius...in case anyone thinks theyre good....theyre not but the papers had them in "other teams on the radar". so I guess the judges are still out on them but they have all the tools. If they flop against Rita thatd make me look pretty stupid so we'll see. and no, i dont go to Loyola...id rather not say where i go cuz we're awful, haha. in fact, im gonna stop talking about Loyola, b.c. it prolly is weird that i know so much.

again i want to amend that statement that they are the best b.c. that was pretty ignorant to say but they are better OFFENSIVELY than BG id say. BG has no middles. I want to see Loyola play BG again b.c. both those matches were sweet. I wont be there cuz its way far but if you dont believe me you should go see Loyola St. Rita on Tuesday.


Ur an idiot. Loyola doesnt stand a chance against any of the good teams in the state. The buffalo grove game seems to be a fluke since they got ****** on in the championship game. Rita is gunna roll them in 2 tomorrow and send them home wishin they never came down to the south side. then no one will b talking about the ramblers anymore. Id be surprised if they even win a game at the downers south tournament. Elias is decent but reis is overated, ive played against him before, and their other oh is just terrible. Berry can swing but its just over the net, against any good team hes gunna get blocked. They have no middle, how the hell can they even be compared to any of the top 5 teams. Ur in for a long weekend at the downer south tournament Loyola, might as well not even come.
Vballa15
QUOTE(mustangs @ Apr 27 2009, 09:24 PM) *

Ur an idiot. Loyola doesnt stand a chance against any of the good teams in the state. The buffalo grove game seems to be a fluke since they got ****** on in the championship game. Rita is gunna roll them in 2 tomorrow and send them home wishin they never came down to the south side. then no one will b talking about the ramblers anymore. Id be surprised if they even win a game at the downers south tournament. Elias is decent but reis is overated, ive played against him before, and their other oh is just terrible. Berry can swing but its just over the net, against any good team hes gunna get blocked. They have no middle, how the hell can they even be compared to any of the top 5 teams. Ur in for a long weekend at the downer south tournament Loyola, might as well not even come.

ok thats a tad harsh... there a good team, just prolly not top 10 in the state...
Ballin27
QUOTE(vballfan8 @ Apr 26 2009, 11:50 PM) *

Another thing, Reis Foster is NOT one of the best outsides in state. I could probably name you 10 OH better than him.

lovik, nystrom, mueller, wrather, falknor, williams, hutziga, carrington, brady, those two sandburg kids

theres 11 off the top of ma head. and for RIGHSIDES how bout JOE SMALZER, MARK JONES, even the buffalo grove kid, baronti or shanahan are BOTH better than pat berry. whatever man, you dont know jack. go root for loyola all day son. peace

elias is good tho


That is beyond wrong. Half of the outsides you mentioned are not better than Reis Foster. Wrather and Lovik, then 2-3 maybes but definitely not all of those kids.
dink81
QUOTE(mustangs @ Apr 27 2009, 07:24 PM) *

Ur an idiot. Loyola doesnt stand a chance against any of the good teams in the state. The buffalo grove game seems to be a fluke since they got ****** on in the championship game. Rita is gunna roll them in 2 tomorrow and send them home wishin they never came down to the south side. then no one will b talking about the ramblers anymore. Id be surprised if they even win a game at the downers south tournament. Elias is decent but reis is overated, ive played against him before, and their other oh is just terrible. Berry can swing but its just over the net, against any good team hes gunna get blocked. They have no middle, how the hell can they even be compared to any of the top 5 teams. Ur in for a long weekend at the downer south tournament Loyola, might as well not even come.

Loyola in 2.
cubdude21
QUOTE(mustangs @ Apr 27 2009, 08:24 PM) *

Ur an idiot. Loyola doesnt stand a chance against any of the good teams in the state. The buffalo grove game seems to be a fluke since they got ****** on in the championship game. Rita is gunna roll them in 2 tomorrow and send them home wishin they never came down to the south side . then no one will b talking about the ramblers anymore. Id be surprised if they even win a game at the downers south tournament. Elias is decent but reis is overated, ive played against him before, and their other oh is just terrible. Berry can swing but its just over the net, against any good team hes gunna get blocked. They have no middle, how the hell can they even be compared to any of the top 5 teams. Ur in for a long weekend at the downer south tournament Loyola, might as well not even come.



ooops?
croz
[the question is how many losses will it take to get rita out of the top 10. if they're one of the best teams in the state then illinois volleyball is in a sorry situation. the two games were not even as close as the scores were. loyola owned them. so much for southside volleyball.
Setanddig
Agreed, Rita is pretty weak! Lots of hype before this season and nothing to back it up...


quote name='croz' date='Apr 29 2009, 07:50 AM' post='136383']
[the question is how many losses will it take to get rita out of the top 10. if they're one of the best teams in the state then illinois volleyball is in a sorry situation. the two games were not even as close as the scores were. loyola owned them. so much for southside volleyball.
[/quote]
Vballa15
QUOTE(croz @ Apr 29 2009, 07:50 AM) *

[the question is how many losses will it take to get rita out of the top 10. if they're one of the best teams in the state then illinois volleyball is in a sorry situation. the two games were not even as close as the scores were. loyola owned them. so much for southside volleyball.

yea, agreed, 4th in the tiger classic is all ive heard about them...
Dust21590
QUOTE(Vballa15 @ Apr 29 2009, 12:48 PM) *

yea, agreed, 4th in the tiger classic is all ive heard about them...


rita seems to be one of the most hot and cold teams in the state. if they show up ready to play, watchout, they can play really well. but if not they seem to break down really poorly mentally. to be a top team you have to be ready to play every match (atleast agianst decent teams) lucky for them it would take the mental break down of the century for them to not make it downstate...
ph71691
we havent had a starting lineup since WWS, and are admittedly so not a deep team AT ALL. We didn't have our starting libero and our OH just came back yesterday off of an ankle injury v. BG a month ago. There's no shame in loosing to a team like Loyola. They are good, not awesome, but good. We have the richards tourney next weekend. well have our entire starting lineup then, so no excuses.
digger
QUOTE(Dust21590 @ Apr 29 2009, 02:50 PM) *

rita seems to be one of the most hot and cold teams in the state. if they show up ready to play, watchout, they can play really well. but if not they seem to break down really poorly mentally. to be a top team you have to be ready to play every match (atleast agianst decent teams) lucky for them it would take the mental break down of the century for them to not make it downstate...

They dont have a totally free trip downstate like OPRF who is for some reason the only non city of chicago school in the bracket.

St. Rita has to either beat Rice or Morton. Rice is down this year but has been to this spot before and is usually a decent team overall. Morton isnt all that bad this year, they just beat LT in 2 the other night.

The three sectionals below are so terrible compared to the other 5 whoever set it up should have themselves checked. I know the states want representatives from each area, but this is just so unfair.
Elgin (H.S.) Sectional=I cant even guess
Chicago (St. Rita) Sectional=Rita
Bolingbrook Sectional, winner=Nequa
dink81
QUOTE(digger @ Apr 30 2009, 06:55 AM) *

They dont have a totally free trip downstate like OPRF who is for some reason the only non city of chicago school in the bracket.

St. Rita has to either beat Rice or Morton. Rice is down this year but has been to this spot before and is usually a decent team overall. Morton isnt all that bad this year, they just beat LT in 2 the other night.

The three sectionals below are so terrible compared to the other 5 whoever set it up should have themselves checked. I know the states want representatives from each area, but this is just so unfair.
Elgin (H.S.) Sectional=I cant even guess
Chicago (St. Rita) Sectional=Rita
Bolingbrook Sectional, winner=Nequa

I think St Pat's is going to beat OPRF, now that they have Coen back.

Also, I can think of at least 5 teams from the Elgin Sectional that are better Morton and Brother Rice. Not saying it is a strong one, but stronger than the Rita Sectional. Morton is 15-0 right now but their two big wins were LT and OPRF.
Setanddig
I believe fremd is in the Elgin Secti...they could get through that joke of a sectional

QUOTE(dink81 @ Apr 30 2009, 01:33 PM) *

I think St Pat's is going to beat OPRF, now that they have Coen back.

Also, I can think of at least 5 teams from the Elgin Sectional that are better Morton and Brother Rice. Not saying it is a strong one, but stronger than the Rita Sectional. Morton is 15-0 right now but their two big wins were LT and OPRF.

digger
QUOTE(dink81 @ Apr 30 2009, 01:33 PM) *

I think St Pat's is going to beat OPRF, now that they have Coen back.

Also, I can think of at least 5 teams from the Elgin Sectional that are better Morton and Brother Rice. Not saying it is a strong one, but stronger than the Rita Sectional. Morton is 15-0 right now but their two big wins were LT and OPRF.

I dont think Rice, Morton or Rita are that good but what % teams do you think are better in the elgin sectional. I think you might be able to come up with some equally comparable teams but then again we arent talking about anyone that good to begin with.
chillinois
i hope you guys were missing people today because i wasnt impressed
Blame Canada
QUOTE(dink81 @ Apr 30 2009, 01:33 PM) *

I think St Pat's is going to beat OPRF, now that they have Coen back.

Also, I can think of at least 5 teams from the Elgin Sectional that are better Morton and Brother Rice. Not saying it is a strong one, but stronger than the Rita Sectional. Morton is 15-0 right now but their two big wins were LT and OPRF.



John Coen wont make a difference, a bad player cant make a bad team good
TaTas
he sucks
vballfan8
QUOTE(TaTas @ May 3 2009, 12:12 AM) *

he sucks


hes also you.
TaTas
Thats new to me...haha
ph71691
Rita d. Loyola in 3.. loyola played tough.. they are a good team cant deny that.
adVersity#1
QUOTE(Vballstud10 @ Apr 26 2009, 10:00 PM) *

Ya, Ive seen Loyola a lot this year bc i live near them. Loyola's the best offensive team in state. They have one of the best setters, IPFW- bound Elias Aparcedo. Reis Foster is one of the best outsides in state too. Also, I don't know if there are any other right sides better than Pat Barry in stateI know Buffalo Grove had a really good right side too but Pat Barry's swing is deadly. I think the BG right side and him are definaately the best 2 right sides. I dont really know a lot about WWS and GBE but most teams put their best players at outside. When they played BG both times, they really rode there middles. it was probably a combination of BG's middles being the weakness of their team and theyre middles being very solid. Patrick Hechinger and Connor Rundall are the middles for Loyola. They have another outside who jumps out of the gym, but no one knows about him b.c. he doesnt play club- Mike Wojocowski. He can be inconsistent sometimes though but he's real good. Kevin Feeley is, I would say, a top 10 passing libero in state. He's not bad at digging either. I'd say the difference the second time they played was Reis being tired b.c. they really rely on him each game. also, the passing was a little off, uncharacteristic of the Ramblers.
Anxious to see what happens when they play St. Rita on Tuesday...its their last challenge in conference to become undefeated after beating Providence and Bro Rice.


I love Pat, and he probably got a boner from reading that, but I did "lol" at it. He's pretty good, but not the best in state.

Edit - Sorry for responding 2 months later.
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