ok so everyone been talking about what team is gonna be good and whos gonna shine next year in the 2008 forum. well lets start talking on this.

wave1278 or something, who else got the all america?

Here are the 16 year olds:
http://www.usavolleyball.org/Juniors/07_boys/07bjo_16.asp

Front Row: Henry Cassiday (Outrigger), Maddison McKibbin (Outrigger)
Middle Row: J.B. Green (Balboa), Nathan Fons (North Shore), Alex Becherer (North Shore), Conor Bannan (Balboa), Brett Strawhun (St Louis)
Back Row: Neill Nystrom (Sports Performance), Nicholas Gibson (North Shore), Robert Feathers (Pacific Palisades), Chris Mamer (Balboa), MVP- Dylan Davis (Balboa), Oliver Deutschman (Pacific Palisades), Matthew Houlihan (Bay to Bay)
Not Pictured: McKay Smith (Orange Coast)

whos gonna be a Ill. powerhouse next year.
WWS is a given
i also heard OPRF will be some what talented...?

i think glenbard east, glenbrooke north, and vernon hills might be solid next year. and of course wws.

Wait, that's not all-American. That's the all-tournament team for nationals. There's a huge difference between that list for volleyball and mcdonalds all americans for basketball. All that list means is that u are the best hitter on a team that did good at nationals. There's very little selection process compared to actual all American awards for other sports

lincoln way north ! !

then you must be pretty good

does anyone know what that lefty on marist is playing for his school?

i heard he was a setter, but the had him play middle this year? hes good either way, i was just wondering

supposing he wants to play baseball.. and if he does i will go back to marist and woop on him cause thatll be a terrible decision, he balls.. and he set for us a little bit when he was in backrow in the early/mid parts of the season but then we switched our setter and he just banged rightside... i think hell play though

yeah, that kids good?

club? and whats his name?

joe smalzer hes on ultimate 17s

Most of this is from the other IL thread:

A lot of the final 8 teams get gutted by graduation so there is going to be a big power shift next year.

Seniors graduated:
Provi - 11
GBN - 11
Bro Rice - 9
WWS - 2
GBE - 9
Neuqua - 6
OPRF - do I care?
BG - 8


GBE graduates a lot of kids but many of the kids left were the heart and soul of this year's team; Jones, Lovik, Dabrowski, and Kunberger.

Neuqua returns Menendez, Bauer, and a lot of their back row, and Hedrick should fill in nicely somewhere next year.

BG loses Ascher and their Libero Bronson, two all staters. Based on their performance of the rest of their team at state this year, they will fade out of the top 15 or so teams and be a non factor next year, although they may slip downstate out of an easy sectional again.

Rice and GBN lose all of their starters, and Provi only returns 2 starters. I wouldn't count on anything special coming from them next year.

As we all know by now, WWS returns EVERYBODY except Hardek and their libero Williams. Despite all of the acclaim Hardek has gotten this year, he is really not a major loss, especially when you consider all the talent coming through that school.

I think Nap Central loses their best guys and LT graduates 12 seniors so they will be weak next year.

Nap North loses Bunge. Sandburg loses Pollock. Other guys will have to step up.

HC graduates Netisingha, Dodd, Johnson, and Everette, but returns many strong juniors including Jordan Williams, who should be DOMINANT next year. The skill of the supporting cast has yet to be seen.

I seem to remember someone saying that New Trier was young this year? They should be tough as usual.

ok um he plays ultimate 17's and hes a good volleyball player. THEN why the heck would u want to play baseball? why would anyone play baseball over volleyball?? its sooo boring.

Jordan Williams will be far from dominant next year...hes not that good now and they wont have a good enough setter for anyone on that team to dominate...

Jordan is a beast. He can hit over ppl within the 10ft line. They dont even need a setter. If anyone can throw the ball up high Jordan will get kills.

Who does this Jordan Williams kid play for club wise?

Last year was his first year on club and he played for SPVB 17-2 (runbird) and he'll probably be on 18-mizuno this fall.


Jordan doesn't have as much volleyball skill as some of the other top guys but what he lacks in experience he makes up for with raw athleticism. He's not the strongest kid but when you're touching 11'4" who cares? Hell, I thought he was more valuable than Pat Dodd for us in the front row this year, and Pat was 2nd team all state I think. He will improve a ton this club season and I predict him being all state next year.

And tLove is right; any halfway decent setter can set outside well enough to work with, especially that high.

i dont think they will start him on mizuno, even though they are looking to replace neil with a more dynamic player who can play defense and hit from the back row.

hes good.

I didn't say he wasn't good. Just when u call him an all American and list 15 players it makes it seem like ur calling him top 15 in the nation but he's not. I can guareentee u that all the hitters on balboa bay and pali are all better than neil but they couldnt make the list due to number constraints (4 from champions, 3 from runner up, 2 from semifinal losers and 1 from quaterfinal losers).

Yeah when I think about it he'll beat out mueller for the #3 OH, but it's iffy whether or not he can beat out Lovik or Nystrom. They're all such different players; Nystrom is huge but slow and has no hops; Lovik is small (I think like 6'1" or 2") but very powerful, and Jordan is in between them in size but has great hops (gets higher than both of them despite Neill being 4 or 5 inches taller) but he is the least powerful of the three. It really depends on what they are looking for in the Mizuno lineup. One thing against Jordan is that he has played virtually no back row in his life so if they're looking for an all around OH then Williams will probably end up on Runbird again.

1. Aren't the rosters set as of the Waynz World Qualifier for both of the 17 Spri Teams?

2. If you want an excellent all around player to move up to 17 Mizuno from a Spri club team, how about Tyler Gustafson (Glenbard North, All DuPage Valley Conference Team) from Runbird?

3. Noticed many of the SPRI staff at many High School events.....still time to put a non frozen player on another club into the SPRI lineupS

4. Anyone who watched Neill at IHSA knows he had a few digs.....45 for the season...true he's not a Paul Carroll, Matt Anderson, or Sean Rooney when it comes to the back row..... but anyone that saw him blocking Ascher, Padden, Daliege, et al....and putting down 6 - 15 kills a game know that he's a tower of power on the front line. Every player has their foibles...did I mention EVERY?

Well Jordan has no defense or passing experience at all.

Not trying to start an argument here just simply stating the facts. While playing Bro Rice Neil had 1 block, for Providence had 0 blocks, for Buffalo Grove had 2 blocks. So he never blocked Padden (rarely lined up against him), never blocked Daliege (never even attempted to block a quick), and maybe blocked Ascher twice. Also 6-15 kills a game not really. Had 7 against rice, 7 against Provi, and 6 against BG. Not saying that he is a bad player but just that IL VB DAD overexaggerated his numbers and he isn't a tower of power on the front line.

We're talking about the '08-'09 18's season.

and school season also

hands down. neil sucks.

the 17s spri-2 setter was bettter then their spri mizuno setter.

ehh there are 2 spri mizuno setters...but yea victor lei is good

yeh the asian guy. what school does he play for?

you phail

I wanna say Nap Central?

i gotta say i agree with the haters

neil is not that good, and unless he gets seriously in shape i dont see him getting any better. if spri players wanna argue with me i guess they have a right to cause they see him play a lot more than i do but hey, i see what i see

alright guys, im the creator of the forum and i want you guys to talk about who and what teams are gonna be good next year, but lets stop with the trash talking and bashing other players. i means i like to see a lot of people getting involved in this convo but lets reduce the bashing of other players. just put ur self in that person's shoes before u post.

besides that, thanks you all for posting.

you're a loser

i agree wit volleyball dude.... lets talk about teams... not bash players... it looks bad to whoever is doing the bashing

lets get like... a big list of players and top teams

maybe top 10 teams, and hten like top 5 setters, top 10 OH/RS, top 5 middles, top 5 liberos, etc

(not really any PARTICULAR order, give or take a couple spots... basically some teams to look out for)
1. WWS
2. GBE
3. Lincoln-Way East
4. St. Francis
5. Neuqua Valley
6. Vernon Hills
7. Stevenson
8. Providence
9. Glenbrook North
10. Buffalo Grove (gotta give it to em for coming in 2nd and return a couple people)

Top Setters (again, no particular order)
1. Mark Jones (GBE)
2. Joe Kelley (WWS)
3. Nick Riley (GBN)

Top Hitters
1. Rob Bauer (NV)
2. Tim Lovik (GBE)
3. Chris Falknor (BG)
4. Ernie Choi (VH)
5. Stephen Carrington (GBN)
6. Keegan Harris (VH)
7. Neil Nystrom (WWS)

Top Middles
1. Rob Samp (WWS)
2. Danny Falls (PROV)
3. Peter Dabrowski (GBE)
4. Neal Whittington (WWS)
5. Derek Menendez (NV)

Top Liberos
1. Brian Urchell (PROV)
2. Mark Kunberger (GBE)
3. Joe Duda (BG)

setters-joe smalzer mrst, joe kelly wws, tim shmidt oprf, victoe lei nap central....?
OH-neil nystom wws, tim lovik gbe, keegan harris vernnon, falknor BG, carrington gbn, jordan williams ?, john coen ?, Im sure there are some south side killas... gustafson bard north....
RS-MARK JONES gbe, smalzer mrst, mark brady OP, ( i dont know many rs.)
L- simon holstein NT, kev begley NEqua, thats all i got..
MH-neil wittingham wws, peter dabrowski gbe, chris ahilin NT, quinn mrst.

Im sure there are alot more

Neil Nystrom has the potential in the next 9 months to become one of the most dominant outside hitters in the state next year. He wasnt great in club ball this past year because he just came off of knee surgery and was hesitant to go full strength. He also has shoulder problems. But over the high school season he has progressed and definately showed it during that state playoffs....i just watched the championship match and he had a very solid game. If he stays healthy and works hard in the off season, and builds more confidence, he could easily dominate his senior year. I think its hilarious people are saying he is bad......the kid has only been playing volleyball for a little over two years now. He won state as a sophmore, went to his very first nationals that summer and was awarded all american, and won state again as a junior.

so did mark jones play right front when mader was setting in the backrow, and mader hitting in the right front when jones was in the backrow setting?

The DVC will be ridiculous next year!!!!

and yes to the Mark Jones question!

thanks. whos DVC??

whos nick riley? what club does me play??

Yeah he is obviously good but the reason I think a lot of people don't like him is because he could be so much better. Like someone else said "he's a waste of a 6'9" body". He is chubby and can't move very well and has no hops but is still good just because he is 6'9" and that pisses people off. If he lost weight and got into shape and started jumping any respectable vertical he would absolutely dominate. It's up to him.

And the DVC is the Dupage Valley Conference. It has WWS, GBE, Nap C, Nap N, etc...

i THINK hes the setter for gbn next year?? i also THINK he plays adversity select unless thats an entirely different kid lol. hes got dec hands n i think his hitters will make him look good as well.

What 18s are going to be good in the fall? I assume Ultimate, SPVB, but what non-powerhouses had good 17s this year that will be good 18s next year? D1? RT? Adversity?

Neuqua Valley Will be just as solid next year as this year with 2 returning starters and the libero from 17-1 for spri and the 17-1 right side.....

Riley was the setter for GBN this year when Bedford was out and he did a nice fill in job.

I think New Trier should be added onto the top teams list.

Also, top MH Joel Lopata- Deerfield (he played 18s adversity this year)
Libero- Simon Holstein- New Trier
OPP- Chris Temple- Highland Park
Setter- BJ Boldog- Palatine (RT 17 Blue Setter)