Alright i want to take a stab at this top 10 thing. But i'm going to put us where everyone else did on theres.
1. Tosa East (Solid Offense thats hard to stop)
2. Marquette (Always good no matter what)
3. CMH
4. Tosa West (They are going to need someone else to step up besides Kevin if they are going to go all the way)
5. Homestead (With Shinner, Charlie, and Steve how can you go wrong?)
6. Shorewood (Not the same without Schulte, but Sam is a great leader for that team)
7. Park (Next Level is all i can say haha)
8. App. North (Good setter and some good hitters a decent team)
9. Burlington (Chris does a good job setting and Hitting, and sooner or later those crazy offensive plays will pay off.)
10. Pius (Great libero with Dan, but when he digs those amazing hits they need a go to guy to put the ball away.)

just wanna say thanks to dan and pat, them pius kids sure do know there trig.....

Yea there is the coachs poll, and then the Journal Sentinal has a top 10 but i don't know when it comes out or if it is out yet?

aight thanks

It's not out yet but You can check it online to see when it comes out. Go to this site then eventually when they get posted, you can view it. Here's the site...

http://www.jsonline.com/index/index.aspx?id=34

Just scroll down to the "other sports" area and eventually, when they put them out, it'll say Area and State rankings for Boy's Volleyball

Hope this helps.

So where there any outstanding plays by anyone in the Invite? becuase Tommy Novotny had one for us. I think it was against homestead where Steve had an attack that wasn't hit very hard, but hard enough and it was falling to the ground and out of no where Tommy dives in and Pancakes it right up to Erik and we got a kill and won the point. I was just wondering if anyone else had some outstanding plays like that

sam had a sick one... i think it was against u guys taylor... one of u hit it through the seem, and u just watch sam out of no where sprawls out and gets it up, and i think we won that rally, not sure tho.

yeah our outside pounded a two ball right into a greendale player's grill. the kid's head violently snapped back. some serious damage could've been done.

i saw one from a kid on appleton north, i think this was still in pool play. he was on the right side (setting i belive) but he dove for a ball all the was on the left side of the court, gets up, runs all the way back across the court to roof the other team. i was just passing by but it was a great play.

[quote name='PXILibero2' date='Sep 10 2006, 01:13 PM' post='18702']
Anyone know the pools for the 'Tosa East tournament next week?


pool 1 -tosa east,racine case, waukesha west.
pool 2-park, nicolet, wfb
pool 3- shorewood, pius, horlick

WAC Tourney Sat. Anyone know pools?

Big matches this week? Anyone?

Homestead @ Tosa East Wed

That should be an amazing game! I kind of want to attend. What time is it at? Its not really a "Big" match for us but we do have Wauk. West on Thursday at CMH.

damn park got lucky as hell with that seeding. not like us. why have we gotten screwed in both past tourneys with pools?

Do you understand anything about high school tournaments. The head coach gets to create the pools. Tosa East is going to play Waukesha west since the son of the coach plays for that team, and that is a nice moment. Then hmm lets think what Racine school do I want to play so I can make the finals, probably the weakest one, this year that would be Case. Pius and Nicolet just played in Racine so they are not going to be in the same pool. So basically it was who goes with Park, Pius or Nicolet. At the time Nicolet was coming off a nice finish in the Kettle Moraine tournament which included a win over Tosa West so they go in with Park. Have no clue what happend to them on Saturday, but at the time the pools were created they seemed very fair.

As for Racine this weekend. All of my thoughts have been covered by other posters. I will admit that I now do give Appleton North some credit they did look like a top 10 caliber team.

Knocking ignorant posters down one member at a time.
hahah The Truth you are one funny Dude hahahah

hahaha knocking down ignorant posters one member at a time....

hahahaha you just made my day truth

Truth, no added thoughts on Racine? Are we really all that good in our analysis that you have nothing to add?

Well ok, I have a few.
Tosa East played awesome defense.
Why would Homestead's coach move Bazan (one of the top middles in the state) to opposite for a game.
Tim Walker needs to get the ball more and in a better hitting position. Marquette needs better passing
Appleton North can compete.
Shorewood is a lot better than expected, Miller is a star player when did this happen.
Wisconsin Volleyball is not as clear cut as in years past. There are a number of teams who could win the state tournament this season.

I pretty much agree on everything there especially the part about anyone could win the tourney. We've already seen that the top 3 teams that we all thought would dominate be beaten once if not more than once AKA Homestead Marquette and Tosa West. Its anyone's game

thanks for the props and I hope our performance will give us a little respect, I know it is tough when we don’t get to compete much

Andy!!! What sup son??


O and truth, i really didn't find Shorewood that good, maybe they played a bad match against us, but we had them in a game(were up 17-15 and blew it 18-20) and came back to lost the other 17-19....could be wrong tho

Don't mean any disrespect whatsoever, just my opinion, i thought there were alot of better teams than shorewood

Alright, earlier in the offseason I made my preseason position rankings for Wisconsin. Now that the season's underway, we've seen the first big tournament, and can recognize any position changes that have occured, would anyone like to make their own "players to watch" for each Wisconsin position?

Top 3 at each, top 5 at each, doesn't matter much. Just want to hear what people have to say after Racine and roughly one week of conference play.

Remember, don't include players from your own school.

I'll make mine tomorrow. I'm tired, have homework to do, and the Packers lost today, so I'm in a bad mood. Take it easy, fellas.

haha yeah I remember that play the only thing our coach said was 'duck next time' but I think he learned his lesson already. by the way this is greendale's libero #10. Anyone have any advice for beating shorewood?

Yeah that was a nasty play. I will admit though, i went nuts haha. And I guess thats pretty good advice haha

Marquette never really seems to have that great of passing. Their coach just seems to try and have a good blocking team but I guess it looks like he started changing his ways when he started using 2 DS's.

Wow just dominated my Java test so i get to chill on the forum the rest of the class...

Anyone know how big the middleton tournament is gonna be??
I know alot of teams are going to be in Whitefish Bay, but I don't know to much about middleton.

sorry truth no i dont know anything about how tournaments are set up im not a coach i was just sayin we have hard pools alot chill out.

outsides-- baker, meyer, ciriaks, tim brandt, heaton
middles-- josh bleck, chris esser, luke(tosa east), bazan, kid from burlington
Opposites-- rey rey, walker, dont know many others
liberos-- danny, danny, danny, spaude, tosa east has a good ds/libero
setters-- schinner, kirchner, TE guy, neuns, hogan will get there(good hitters make good setters)

whoop;s that was the wrong quote i meant to quote dann

I feel that that is almost perfect...Almost as in i think that Baker should be 4, Drew Oswald (number 3 on North) should be 3, and the Outside from chm should be 5...I agree with basically every other pick on the rest of the positions

I agree with everyone and not to be this kind of person cause I play with him, but for OH, Charlie Williams should be in there. Again not just saying this because I play with him, but he is a great player. That's just my opinion though.

Agreed, I was a doubter but I think he's proved himself this year.

And again, not trying to just support my team here, but he's impressed me this year and he had something like 50 kills at the racine invite and thats pretty good. I just thought I'd throw him out there and see if anyone agreed with me

Alright so the most rediculous thing ever happened today. We had practice from 5-7ish and the basketball team had open gym from 7-? so we went out into the hall at 7ish to have a meeting, and since we got all those stud transfers, TOM IZZO WALKS IN THE DOOR, and everybody's jaw just drops and we were going nuts once he got in the fieldhouse, so after the meeting was done some people went back in and after about 45 minutes of trying to avoid him noticing me taking pictures on my phone of him I finally decided what the heck, people probably do it to him all the time and I'll never see him again in my life, so I went up to him and asked to have a picture with him and he put his arm around me and let me get that picture...great guy and just rediculous that that happened. There was also some big guy wearing a Florida shirt there and a UWGB scout there...can't wait to see who shows up for actual games.

Thats ridiculous, haha talk about totally random....we always have these mens tournaments down by us, its' in this little crappy gym, but alot of really good old college players come and play, zach morley, clayton hansen, Roy Boone(used to be totally awesome), tigert, 2 dieners(not travis), some of those guys are soo good...it's fun tho, that what that kinda reminds me of.

so hos taking state

Are u kidding me? lol dude take a look at every page of this topic and there will clearly be at least 3 posts that say state is completly up for grabs...

as a matter of fact, pretty much every sectional is up for grabs too... its gonna come down to who can put it together as a team when it counts..

btw dan, check out the libero bounce contest... i put a little plug in there for you ;-)

Hmmm... to do homework, or to make my updated list of best players in the state.... I choose the latter.

OH

1. Kevin Ciriaks (Sr., Tosa West) - Not much change here... a gamebreaker, can get kills from anywhere on the court. Complete player.

2. Steve Meyer (Sr., Homestead) - One of the most explosive players in the state, high vertical, plays with an arrogant intensity. Believes he's going to get a kill every time he's set. Good defender and passer.

3. Sam Miller (Sr., Shorewood) - I have to admit, I had my doubts about him being a true superstar coming into the season. He was overshadowed by Schulte last year, and played on a club team where most of the sets went to Kevin, Steve, or Tim. All doubts are erased. Sam can dominate. Puts up a great block and is an extremely smart hitter.

4. John Baker (Jr., Racine Park) - Knows what it takes to win, and should lead that Park team as far as it wants to go. Gets a lot of downward snap and gets high enough to hit over blocks. Not elite at passing or defense, but certainly elite in hitting and blocking.

5. Taylor Braun (Jr., Catholic Memorial) - Built in the same mold as Baker, and plays similarly. Uses the block well, gets plenty of tools. Not as publicized Baker (maybe due to the fact that he shares sets with Esser), but perhaps a more well-rounded player (passing/defense).

Honorable Mention: Chris Brigson (Sr., Burlington), Stephan Mance (Sr., Marquette), Alex Heaton (Sr., Marquette), Charlie Williams (Sr., Tosa East), Bobby Vranek (Jr., Nicolet), Drew Oswald (Sr.? Appleton North) <--- haven't seen him play, but will give him benefit of the doubt because of what others have said.

MB

1. Charlie Bazan (Sr., Homestead) - Still convinced he's the best blocking middle in the state. Makes the most of his attacks. Hits around or through most opposing blocks. Smart.

2. Chris Esser (Jr., Catholic Memorial) - Man, can he bounce. Came into our house at Pius and completely embarassed us. Solid block, and even more solid armswing. Still has the goofy-footed approach, but it doesn't seem to matter much.

3. Andrew Frohmader (Sr., Marquette) - Maybe the highest vertical in the state this year. This dude can sky. Once he figures out the nuances of the middle blocker position, he may be #1. Puts up a huge block, gets way up in the air, and hits down on the ball. As soon as he starts finding court more, he'll be a great player.

4. Luke Coyle (Jr., Tosa East) - Benefits from a setter who puts the ball whereever he needs to on almost every set, but is a smart hitter and will find court while making few errors. Solid block.

5. Josh Bleck (Jr., Arrowhead) - After playing them in conference for the past few years, I've realized he's a solid if unspectacular player who won't make many errors, and gets kills when the ball comes his way.

Honorable Mention: Kurt Svatek (Sr., Tosa East)

Opp.

1. Tim Walker (Sr., Marquette) - Some talked about how he didn't connect well enough with his setter at Racine. It doesn't matter. Until proven otherwise, he's still one of the top 2 or 3 hitters in the state, not to mention a wall at the net. I still don't know the reasons for moving Tim to the weak side, and I might never find out, but no matter where he is on the court he'll generate kills and blocks.

2. Mike Moe (Sr., Racine Case) - Doesn't have much to work with on his team this year (sorry Mike...) but will generate kills and blocks in the front row. When he gets a good set, will swing away at it and pound through blocks.

3. Rey Speller (Jr., Tosa East) - Rey Rey the tall, athletic type with a big vertical. He plays with arrogance most of the time, which can be both positive and negative (see: 2 yellow cards on Saturday). All in all, his potential for the next 2 years makes him my #3 right side.

Setter

1. Eric Neuens (Sr., Catholic Memorial) - Convinced me that he's the best setter in the state when we played them on Wednesday. Tall enough to be a consistent blocker, great placement, and good decision making.

2. Jordan Kirchner (Sr., Tosa West) - Sort of a no-frills type of setter. Makes solid decisions and has good placement, as well. And, of course, is the best defensive setter in the state.

3. Andy Schinner (Sr., Homestead) - Could be at any one of the top 3, because I feel they're pretty interchangable. Puts the ball where it needs to be consistently, and has one of the better float serves in the business.

4. Zach Liska (Soph., Tosa East) - A liability at the net, but possibly the most exceptional placement and decision-making in the state. In my opinion, the key to Tosa East's early success.

Libero/DS

1. Jim Doherty (Sr., Shorewood) - Solid out of serve receive, even a bit better defensively.

2. Tosa East's Libero (???) - I don't know who you are, but I was quite impressed with your defense at Racine, and when I watched you play Nicolet.

3. Brad Polender (Sr., Tosa West) - Not as good defensively as I remember, but still a good serve receive passer. Passes a lot of balls because teams shy away from serving Kevin.


Well, that's my 2 cents (or 2 dollars, depending on your point of view). Let me know what you think.

[quote name='PXILibero2' date='Sep 11 2006, 10:23 PM' post='18847']
Hmmm... to do homework, or to make my updated list of best players in the state.... I choose the latter.


2. Jordan Kirchner (Sr., Tosa West) - Sort of a no-frills type of setter. Makes solid decisions and has good placement, as well. And, of course, is the best defensive setter in the state.

Nice one Dan, were you trying to get my attention on that one? Very nice list, it has my seal of approval.

so truth, whats crakin, attending red raider?

Hehe, I figured you'd enjoy that comment, but it wasn't made with you specifically in mind. I said it because it is... quite frankly... the truth.

Seeing as I'm still unaware of your identity, I'm still not quite sure what gets your attention and what doesn't.

I would, however, like to see your list based on your observations so far this season, Mr. Truth.

Oh, and thank you for the seal of approval, it's much appreciated.

Wow... See i told you all Dan is the best at these list things, no one can beat that except for maybe the truth

I do not feel comfortable making a list just yet. In Racine it was hard to watch players as so many games were going on and found myself watching teams as a whole not individual players. Plus I did not see what was going on at Horlick or Case. I will make a list in a couple weeks once I have seen more games, possibly after the bay tournament. As for Baker's question about Raider invite. I have not decided yet, might be coming across Badger tickets and that would be much more fun. Although the thoughts of a Shorewood, Park, Tosa East championship pool does sound interesting.

Early prognosses:Tosa east peaking right now. marquette beatable for first time in a long time even though sorenson strategy helps them win games they shoudnt ie tosa west game.Homested streaky right now but I think they will beat east this week.cmh playing well good middles.Tdubb trying to find themselves will improve.Greenfield a sleeper.Fox valley teams need to prove they can win big ones against se wisc teams until then not deserving of consideration for state tourney.Thats all

Looks like we have something to prove this weekend. Going through Shorewood to get to the gold won't be easy. However, if you score Badger tickets, you have to head to Camp Randall. It's a must.

Badger tix are always a-must-go


wadep dan and pat, or as pat's mom says 'Patrick'

Newly released coaches poll as of 9/12

1. Tosa East - 179
2. Marquette - 163
3. Tosa West - 122
4. Catholic Memorial - 121
5. Homestead - 85
6. Shorewood - 70
7. Appleton North - 59
8. Burlington - 44
9. Pius - 39
10. Park - 33

Others receiving votes
Greenfield 12, Arrowhead 11, Kimberly 9, Kettle Moraine 8, Kaukauna 7, Madison Lafollette 2, Racine Horlick 2

No way! I'm going to the badger game! hahaha Look out Truth i'm going to find you there of all places! hahahahaha

Wats everyone think of the coaches poll?

Ummm... seems pretty accurate to me.. we got beat by one vote but i mean it happens....

tosa east really getting respect after one tourney... not gonna lie im a little suprised... but hey, they beat everyone...