what HS is he from?

Tosa East

I was very shocked that he did not get any offers at all

Dont let this die guys. You have kept it up so well it would be harsh just to let it die like this. Keep it alive.

al is playing with southwest 18s, and one of our reserves jake helling (OH/MB) might be too, but al for sure.

now that the season has been over. im curious as to who had great seasons and who busted this season?

i don't think anyones seasons were a failure. some teams didnt finish like they wouldve liked too, but no one really busted, because that would include the season being a wast of time. according to the marquette coach though "theyre season was a failure, because they didn't win state."

Yeah, and I know a lot of their players (since I did play with them for 2 years and go there for 3 years) and one told me how to the team after the match he told them they would never succeed in life and other things along those lines. Maybe it's time for him to realize that life's about more then volleyball, having Marquette on the back of their jersies does not mean they are automatically the best volleyball team in State and if they lose it's because they played bad and realize there may have just been a better team out there, and realize heart beats height sometimes.

well clearly that mentality has helped. I thought what he said was correct. And height usually beats heart. Maybe not every year. But usually.

If height beat heart, we (Pius) wouldn't have won many matches this year...

and we should have won more games too then if that was true..

we had 4 people on our team around 6'5, then quite a few at like 6'2

Maybe height beats heart at Marquette, but to say ''height usually beats heart" isn't true at all.

To say that at marquette if you lose your season was a failure, and to have someone defend that is just ludacris... first of all, cmh pllace 4th last year, 3rd the year before, 2nd three years ago, and 3rd four years ago in the journal sentinals best athletic programs in the state. Also, in the past 4 years, cmh has pllaced first all 4 years in that poll for private schools.. thus i think itst safe to say at least in the past couple of years cmh has had a better overal program than marquette. And by no stretch of the imagination do we base the sucess of our season off of wether or not we won the state championship... yeah, this year we took 2nd, and wwe were dissapointed... but was it a failure of a season? not at all... to say that at marquette u either win state or its a failure thats bs... if thats the standard at marquette than how come we don't have that standard at a more succesfful athletics-wise school... it makes no sense... im not takign shots at any of the marquette guys im just saying... lets get real... out of the 60 boys volleyball teams, there are not 59 of them who have a failure of a season.. and extend that even further in every spsort at every school theres probebly over 1500 teams in the state.. and how many of those teams win state championships like 25? I respect larry as a coach and what he does at marquette that makes his program so sucessfull.. but i don't agree with that comment and i kept quiet until now but i had to say something.

The mentality that if you lose a volleyball match you won't succeed in life is a helpful one? So all 59 teams who didn't win State are going to fail at life? Yikes, that's a scary thought. Like Brock told us over and over, but especially after we lost, "When everything is said and done volleyball is just a game and your friends are still going to be your friends and your parents are still going to love you and this is just one more setback in your life and it isn't the first and won't be the last." Volleyball is a game that should be played for fun. And yes, you should WANT to win, because who doesn't? Who WANTS to lose and goes into a match thinking we're going to lose this? But just because you lose once at a game makes your life a failure? Wow.

I think the mentality that helps Marquette is the mentality that they are SUPPOSED to win and they believe they WILL win, but not that if they lose they are a failure.

marquette kids are disappointed because this will be the first fall in over 15 years that we did not win a state championship or something. when winning in the fall becomes that regular, kids expect it and if the teams dont win then its like they choked, no matter who they lost to or anything. for better or for worse, thats the way it is at marquette and always will be.

I think you forgot the "your girlfriend will still want you" part.

well for the past like... 6 years park hasnt made it to state, so, i mean i hear ya, cause loosing does suck, but at least you guys are gifted enough to be there every single year...

Haha it wasn't only "Your girlfriend will still want you," there was more detail to it...

Oh believe me, I remember.. but that wasn't forum appropriate.

maybe its that mentality that makes people with it lack friends..... not to take a cheap shot or anything. there are people who go to marquette who i love... but... they don't really believe that ...


yeah and then i remember thinking... oh i wish that would happen to me... haha

I think its a failure because we didnt win state in a fall sport. That hasnt happened in like 15 years. Clearly, we are are "SUPPOSED" to win. Obviously the fact that we lost state 1 year doesnt mean we are failures for our entire lives. Simply, for that season, we did not accomplish the goal.

but to say that your season is a failure... you may not have accomplished one goal, that only one team can accomplish. I think that your season is not a failure. every player on a team this year must have had somthing come out of it, whether you made a few new great friends, or took strides in your volleyball play. when it comes down to it, the point is to win, but so much more comes out of your season, you cannot say "we lost, we all fail, nothing good came out of this year".

yeah thats true for sure. But i think its easier to win going into games thinking "Im going to win." I agree though.........it was definetely a good time.....

it probobly is easier, but harder if you lose.

bring it baccck

fo sho


whos gonna be good next year...i know its early

Ok so i've kind of ignored this for a while... but just to comment on some things...

I agree with Pat when he said that Heart beats Height. If you play the game with so much passion and heart you are going to be hard to beat. Because people that truley play with that never let that ball fall, they will dive head first into a wall to save a ball from hitting the floor. And I know that when i play i always play by this quote "What hurts more. You Hitting the floor or the Ball" And i think that was one of the factors in Appleton's North Success this season was because they played with that heart and passion. Just my opinion do with it what you want.

And to say that if you don't win state you suck at life. Please. We haven't won a state title since 2000, we took second in 2003, 2004, and this year. And every season has been a successful one. Each season we've had our goals met and we see things that will definately help in the future. You have to see the glass Half Full not Half Empty.

...My fingers hurt i'm done lol

Just to throw it out there, Dwyane Wade is the 2006 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year. I'm off to read all about it.

STUD

hahaha Pat DWade is pretty amazing, i must say as much as i despise MU DWade was by far one of my favorite players in College Hoops.

Ok I've read about this long enough and now I have to say something about it seeing as I played for Larry for like 3 1/2 years. Yeh the season is always a blast and you can take from it friendships or skills that you picked up or whatever, but the ultimate goal is obviously winning state. Marquette has dominated the state in boy's volleyball for the past 5 years now and if you're the number one team in the state, you are expected to win. The attitude that you always better than the other team that steps out onto the court and that you are going to win is the Marquette mentality. Half the time they can play bad games and still beat the other team because of that mentality. If you don't win state, you can constitute the season as a "failure." I'm not saying that the team itself is a failure but they failed to accomplish the ultimate goal. My sophomore year we lost in the semis to Nate Sederberg and that season was considered a failure. But if you take that the right way, it fueled the guys on the team to win the state championship the next year and the year after. Larry tries to make if so you never want to feel this way again so you make sure that you don't.

Also, saying that "heart beats height" or "height beats heart" or whatever is stupid. Are you saying that Marquette guys don't play with heart? Just because we tended to be bigger than the other teams (with the exception of Kaukauna my junior year...I calculated their average height because I was bored and I'm a nerd like that and their entire team's average height was like 6'4 which is just unheard of) doesn't mean we don't play balls to the wall and go all out just like every other team. That's just a stupid comment. If you don't go to Marquette you don't know that they work just as hard as every other team every game, if not harder. Alright my hands hurt too...

1. honestly, i don't think your mentality is doing anything if your playing a bad game.... that has probobly somthing to do with you opponents mentality, that probobly went somthing like this, "ahh! we might be able to beat marquette! everyone start playing amazing!"

2. the person who made that comment obout height v. heart actually went to marquette, so if the comment was about your old school, it might be an educated one.

Yeah that taught me never to type really long posts ever again. Short sweet and to the Point

Apparently I never got that memo.

God hutz you are such a cool guy! Email me your schedule. Careful with those hands. . . .
PS. When i come to a game, set James a 2 ball for me. it would be nice if he had no block too. . . i dont know if you are that good. . . .

Haha I love you too Ace. I'm diggin the sarcasm too. Tear it up in club this year. And I would love to set James a 2-ball without a block except that I'm redshirting this year so I'll never be in a real match with James unless our setter goes down.

I don't remember reading anyone from marquette saying that other than Ace saying that height usually beats heart so I have no idea what you're talking about. And I didn't mean my prior statements as a shot at any current marquette guys so I hope they didn't take that from it. And as for taking positive things from the season, becherer established himself as one of the top outsides in the state as a sophomore, hogan established himself as a solid setter, and ryan lehman did a solid job in the middle. So in that way they have a lot going for them going into next season.

yeah alex was the one who initially said that...he brought it up
so yeah jack was right...alex was the one who made that comment

Actually Pat Foley was the one who initially brought up the heart vs. height debate. Ace just commented on it. Peace.

what are your thoughts on that?




I just said that looking back on old marquette teams, like when the grunsts and bomhack played. I kinda thought we meant "height" as in a 7' Grunst middle. I totally agree with everyone. Id take a 6'1'' hard worker over a 6'4' that tries any less.

PS. Id take Grunst even if he tried 5%...... ......Hes a baller.

Just to clear things up, I didn't mean to suggest that Marquette does not have as much heart or put as much effort into volleyball as other teams, I just meant that there are more factors in winning a volleyball match then just height and heart is a big one. I know Marquette works just as hard as everyone else (although, even though I never REALLY practiced/played with Marquette's varsity team, I'd find it hard to believe that any other team worked harder then what Brock put us through). I just thought I was better then some of the kids that made the team even if they had a height advantage and it seemed that was the only reason they made it over me. But whatever, me playing volleyball was the factor that put my decision to transfer over the top and I am very glad I did transfer, even though our season ended before I got my dream match...it's not all about volleyball, I enjoy Pius better, it's just more for me.

Personally, i would take the 6'1" kid because i know that he won't give up on anything if he truely is a hard worker, he would chase everyball. Where as the 6'4" kid might not try as hard to save a ball from hitting the floor.

Yea they were HUGE. 2 6'8" outsides, a 6'5 mid(with a 40 inch vert), a 6'4" RS(only really good player...2nd team all state Dan Judkins), and 6'1" S(i beleive those are all right)....too bad they passed like a freshmen team, and were basically a bunch of goons(I actually think they all played basketball too...haha). I remember watching them my sophmore year, as they played teams like Manitowoc, and would laugh my ****** off beacuse it was so unporportional.
O well, they got owned at state, still funny cuz they were unbelievably tall.

I remember that team. We played them my Freshman year in the first round at State, and I just remember being a little freshman and thinking... Wow that is a pretty big block....

your right my mistake.Peace.

yes, exactly. pat foley went to marquette. my point stands

jack, jw wat is ur picture is it a crayfish? jw that or a shrimp and on a very far stretch.....a lobster?

it's been buggin me

it would be a lobster... good stretch.
not sure why.

Did someone say "save a ball from hitting the floor"?

I polished these up a little (dumping
ones that didn't go well/striking some
that were too oriented to specific players)
and I leave these to posterity or Brad,
whichever comes first (To use for next year).

It was fun reading all the nominations fot this
year but too hard to pick the winners
(well, other than Mike M. for #6 and
Bobby V. for 15...sorta unanimous)

so, here are-

THE VOLBY'S

1. Worst Uniforms

2. Best Uniforms

3. Worst-Dressed Coach

4. The "No, I AM SPARTACUS" Award
(Best volleyball player on a hopeless team)

5. Olga Korbut Award
(most stylish jump serve)

6. Sasquatch Trophy
(player who most resembles a Bigfoot)

7. Best Avatar-Volleyball Forum

8. Lamest Signature - Volleyball Forum

9. Nancy Kerrigan Memorial
(most dramatic post-impact weeping)

10. Worst Haircut
(categories: opponent/teammate)

11. "Hey, try underhand" Bad Serving Citation
(categories: team/player/game)

12. You Rock! Award
(best warmup music)

13. Where's Waldo? Trophy
(most versatile/positions played)

14. Coachs' Special I: Worst Call in a Game

15. Randy Moss "Player of the Year" Award
(for, 'I can't play well when I'm unhappy')

16. The "All Show and No Go" Competition
(Best performance in warmups by a losing
team that can't duplicate it in a game)

17. The EPA Trophy
(worst case of emitted gas while playing)
- Hey, when we can detect it in the stands, that's
gotta stink...

18. Best Costume-Fan(s)

19. Home Cookin' Trophy
(worst tournament brackets
favoring host team)

20. Kangaroo Competition
(Biggest hops)

21. Coachs' Special II: Worst No-Call in a Game

22. Mr./Ms. Congeniality
(best looking manager/statistician)
- in honor of the *** marriage amendment,
let's have male/female categories...

23. Best Facial

24. Red Badge of Courage
( most spectacular uncontrolled bleeding after a facial)

25. Silence of the Lambs Trophy
(most unenthusiastic fans)

26. Virginia Slims Tour Vocalization Award
(loudest grunt on a hit)

27. Coachs' Special III: Lamest Referee's Explanation

28. Biggest Stiff
(middles only)

29. "Gee, Maybe Next Year There'll be
Boy's Synchonized Swimming!!"
(choreographed bench cheers)

30. Team of Donkeys Award
(worst team spirit)
-As Al McGuire once said, "you can afford to have a
donkey on your team, but not two, 'cause then
they breed..."

Honorable Mention (tie) - 1.Tightest Shorts/ 2.The "I'm Gonna
Cut Off Your Head and **** down Your Throat" Award,
for most colorful but essentially unperformible threat

When is the journals all area team and coach coming out?