i'm from north, and i've gotta say, ur right.. i'm the other outside next to oswald... for some reason we played soo conservative, it was rididc.. it was fun and all, but i thought we should've finished te off, but that's how it goes...

I dont think Tosa East is getting enough credit for beating you guys. Yes I think you guys started to play timid but I dont think you came out in game three timid I think the play of te also contributed to that. they were getting huge blocks when they needed it from there middles and rey, and were getting the digs when they needed it. I dont think theyre getting enough credit for the comeback. Not bashing north or taking anything away from you guys, you played awesome and had a great season but i dont think te's win was only because you guys were playing timid.

Hahahaha Danny your dad is the man! After we beat homestead and they beat north and we were leaving West, he walked right up to me and was like well.. Looks like you and danny will have lots to talk about on the forum. I just started laughing i thought it was halarious

oh yeah, i know... they were playin big, they were on during and after that thrid game

did he really? thats funny

I feel that the only reason North lost game 5 was becasue they got stuck in their 1 bad rotation when both Oswlad and Vanboxtel are in the backrow(Thats when Tosa went on a 9 point run) I was waiting for Borree to dump or soemthign cuz East was roofing everything in that rotation. However it was a hell of a game.

yes i think that separated east from other teams. When other teams suffered from getting stuck in a bad rotation(cmh in the final when taylor was back row, north when oswald is back row) east didnt really have a bad rotation. they would always have 2 or 3 legitimate options to go to and thats where they killed teams. All five hitters could get the kill when needed.

I have to agree they played a great game there serves just beat the hell out of our passer and thats why we couldnt run anything. we made to many errors to. i give alot of credit to Tosa East but i didnt like how some of them where full of them selves after the first game. it basicly came down to our ball control wasnt there.

should i tryout for NS 16s or SW 16s?

what would the people who dont play for either of these teams say?

NorthShore is more of a commitment then SouthWest. NorthShore has a much longer season and its more competative then SouthWest. it really all depends on what you are looking for and what you want to do.

so what team loses who?

we lose 3 seniors, eric nuens- the best setter in the state, our oppo bryan lewike, and our ds nick dabrinska...

what about tosa east? they keep one of their middles and rey ik that much...

don't forget that they get to keep their setter for 2 more years.

Tosa East is bringing back starters rey (opp) luke (mb) Liska (s) Klett (lib)

we're losing brigson(S/OH), andy krumholtz(S/OH), greg jeffers(MH), chris jones(RH), mark bratz(DS/L), marcus traber(DS/L)

the starters we are getting back are kyle ketterhagen soph(OH/L), jake elliot junior(RH) and harris jorgenson(me) soph(MH/OH)

is ketterhagen playing ns again? is he going to be hitting outside for you guys next year?

yeah im pretty sure hes playing ns but dont quote me on that

yeah hes playing outside and i think he'll set also

Pius loses 2nd team all conference setter Phil Kelly, opposites Pat Foley and Ben Majeske, middle Mike Lee, backup outside Zach Styza, backup libero Joey Jonas, and yours truly.

We'll return 2nd team all conference outsides Dave Maternowski (sophomore) and Donald Driver (junior) as well as key contributors - middle Jack Burnett (sophomore), middle Tyler Frings (junior), defensive specialist/outside hitter and Peter Rebholz (sophomore).


On another note, what I just wrote will be 100x more accurate than what the Journal Sentinel preview will look like next year.

I know its very very early but before this thread most likely folds are there any next year predictions on who could be good or a contender?also if there was a state all tournament team who would have made it?

ha ha, well we lose two seniors... tim beier and kevin moreno, but we have 10 juniors on that team now, so our starting 6 and our libero are all coming back. so.... ha ha, i love how i looked in the paper today, and it was the smallest box on some random page about tosa winning state, and it only gave scores. jeeze i love the paper...

all tourny team would probably be as follows

Drew oswald
Charlie from tosa
luke coyle
taylor braun
chris esser
charlie bazan
steve meyer
hands from app north
rey rey
tosa libero
and kurt from tosa.

thats my opinon at least, i might have missed some.

park

i wouldnt count out seeing tosa east back at state next year. greenfield wont be losing that much for next year. horlick isnt losing much. obviously park will be good.

Nicolet returns

Bobby Vranek OH - First team all greater metro, HM all state
Jimmy Sweeney Opp - 2nd team all greater metro
Brian Ernster MH - HM Greater metro
Toli Berezovsky L/OH - HM Greater metro
Two other middles a Soph and a Freshman
Back up outside

All state team from what I watched

1st
S - Neuens
OH - Williams, Oswald
MH - Coyle (MVP - Took over semi final game 4 and 5's) , Esser
OPP - Walker
L - Klett

2nd
S - Schinner
OH - Braun, Meyer
MH - Fro, Svatek
OPP - Rey
L - A North

HM
S - Liska, Borree
OH - Other tosa outside, Becherer
MH - Bazan
OPP - VanBoxtel, Memorials (played great in quarters and semi's)
L - Cheever, Memorials

So for the All State team, was the list on page like 89 the real list?

If not does anyone know the real list??

I wasn't there for the Friday night games, so I'll take your word for Walker (heard he played well plus he's always the best opposite on the court anyway) and Frohmader (also heard he played well, and he's a freak athlete). For what I'd switch I think I'd put Braun first team and move Williams to second (probably just because I watched more of the Homestead vs. CMH match then I did of the Tosa East vs. Appleton North match and in the Finals Braun was the only one who could put a ball away for CMH). I'd put Borree on second and move Schinner to honorable mention. I'd also move Svatek up to first and put Esser on second, I wasn't as impressed with Esser on Saturday as I had been with him all year long, and I thought Kurt got the better of him.

Some of these players may have had either a great Friday match or a very poor Friday match so if that's why they are where they are on his then that's why I changed them, because I didn't see Friday.

I also have a question. Now that the season is over and we all know how it ended, does anybody think moving Tim Walker to opposite from middle benefited them or hurt them? I personally think Tim is a better middle (he is a very good opposite, but a pretty much unstoppable middle). That is just based on what I saw this year though, and that was only 3 matches, so maybe it's different.

Congratulations to Tosa East, they reversed everything that had been said about them and how they choke, that was a rediculous comeback in the Semifinals.

who are you and where do u play what club also

I'm Pat Foley. I'm the opposite for Pius. The Shoewood tournament was 3 days after I was cleared to play after breaking my foot so I didn't start playing very much for another few weeks, so I didn't get a chance to play against you which was disappointing because I wanted to play against Chris Brigson.

I played for Southwest 17s last year and I plan on playing for Southwest 18s this year, but it's almost certain that I'm going to have to have surgery on my ankle so I'll be out for 12-14 weeks. Jack Burnett (jsmack8, our sophomore middle) is also my cousin (which is why he is so well known).

For the seniors... are you looking to play college ball? and where?(this question might have been asked but now that the seasons over im asking it again)

Game Time:

Make Your All Star Team!

3 OH:
3 MB:
3 RS:
2 S:
2 L:
1 Coach:

This could get interesting, and add more pages on to the final total haha

OH-ciriaks, meyer, oswald
MB- bazan coyle svatek/fromader?
RS-walker, rey, vanboxtel
S-neuens, boree/shinner?
L-kowalsky, Klett

coach-i really have no idea. I mean i could come up with a staff but narrowing it down t o 1 is hard. I would say prolly sorenson, simon, hanneman, and maass

i have a visit coming for msoe. and i might join a couple of my friends at whitewater

OH-Steve Myer, Kevin Ciriaks, Drew Oswald
MB-Charlie Bazan(snubbed), Chris Esser, TE's good middle(They're both very good)
RS-Tim Walker, DJ Vanboxtel, Rey Speller
S-Shinner(i still think he's best S in the state, he got snubbed) Andy Borree
L-???
Coach-???

how can you not have atleast 1 libero...theres atleast one that everyone knows should be on that team...i dont even need to say his name..haha

mike masterson is gonna very good next year. he's worked all season on re-doing his arm swing and other such mechanics, so he was a little inconsistent due to that. but with another season of club to keep working on it, he's gonna be really good next year for brookfield east. i actually think he could be a top 5 outside in the state if he keeps improving. i'm the brookfield east setter so i'm biased, but i'm just throwing his name out there because he deserves some recognition. if he hasn't earned it yet, he will next season.

we (brookfield east) return 6 starters next season so hopefully we can make a nice postseason run. i'm pretty excited for our potential.

how old is he and where does he play club ball

hes a junior, so a senior next season. club, not sure. north shore i think.

Oh man taylor.. giving no respects to the ds? lets throw a couple in there for the all star squad haha.. gotta give some love for the backrow players without the weird jerseys haha

but of course im the better looking cousin.

OH: Meyer, Ciriaks, Baker (didn't see oswald play)
MB: Coyle, Esser, Arrowhead Middle
RS: Walker, Speller
S: Neuens, Kirchner
L: Kowalski, Pickering
Coach: Brock

I'm going to combine outsides and right sides, because limiting it to positions played during high school isn't fair.

OH/RS (6): Steve Meyer* (L1), Kevin Ciriaks* (L2), Drew Oswald, Tim Walker* (R1), Taylor Braun, John Baker
MB (3): Chris Esser* (M1), Charlie Bazan* (M2), Luke Coyle
S (2): Eric Neuens* (S), Andrew Borree
L (2): Cheever* (L), Klett
Coach: Hanneman

*denotes starters

Some things I feel like I should clear up... after watching Friday night, though they got handled pretty well, I've determined that Cheever is the best libero in the state going into next year in terms of reading hitters, being in defensive position, and getting controlled touches on balls. If he improves just a bit in serve receive, he'll run away with this (despite competition from the sophomore liberos, Toli and Danny). There's been a lot of love for Al Klett lately, and while I think he played well all in all, Appleton North picked on him in serve receive and was just pounding balls in his direction that were flying every which way. Granted, they were hitting the ball VERY hard, but I think he has the ability to control those balls under normal circumstances.

Also, I figured it's understood that you don't name players/coaches from your own team, hence why I didn't name Brock as my coach. I respect Hanneman a lot in how he runs his team/how they bond on the court.


EDIT: Another option would be running a 6-2, with Borree as the second setter and Baker as the second opposite, putting up a huge block on the opposing outside.

Rey I think you asked earlier who got player of the year for conferences. Big 8 was Danny Fairfield (Fort Atkinson) and Bradie Williams (Middleton) as co-player of the year.
And while I'm at it...
Middleton loses Donovan Harder (MB #12), Jeff Hilmanowski (OH #6), and Bradie Williams (S/OPP #7).
We return four all conference selections.
Junior Peter Wong (S #4), Junior Zac Beal (OH # 3), Sophomore Dane Maier (MB #13), Sophomore Casey Koenig (L #16).
Also bring up a really good freshman class this year including a 6'5 outside hitter Michael Owen. His brother was Tim Owen one time Big 8 conference Player of the Year (two years in a row) and led Middleton to the state semifinals in 1999 where they lost to Marquette in 5.

and we all know Park will be very good and Tosa East will still be strong.

Oh... and since Jack spelled it with an "i" and I've repeatedly seen it with an "e"....

My last name is in fact spelled with a "y", as in "Kowalsky".

Yeah, so Jack is obviously not the smart cousin...

Plus, ask the lady working at Blockbuster...she agrees that I'm the better looking cousin, and considering she was working at Blockbuster she's obviously pretty important and what she says goes.

all star team... dan kowalskiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee in every postion. garenteed win.

ha ha but seriously.. i would go...
steve and oswald outsides
Luke and charlie middle
Rey rey was killin this wekend, so ill go with him as opp.
setter... shinner and possibly eric N.

L... dan Koala

coach... hmm...ill go with coach of the year.. app. north

Those Blockbuster ladies basically know everything...

Foley>Jack.

Correction: Foley>Foley's cousin

and if u use the trasitive property of mathematics... foley> jack, and john>foley... therefore... john>jack. and dan... shoot, lets not get started... that equasion is too long...

John - 128474 /2 + 75 > dan.

Hey John, remember our equation for being the best? And the property you used for killing me? You're pretty good at applying math to real life situations.

Yeah errr... back to volleyball.

Those all star teams?

zip the lip koala boy, thanks to my not so intelegent conversations... we are this much closer to 100. thank you.

You're welcome?


Kurt Svatek is on. Please save us from Baker's madness. Post an all star team. I mean... you are the state champ, so you know where it's at.

soo back to volleyball...

all state teams?