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CEsser1990
QUOTE(THE MASK @ Nov 4 2006, 02:09 AM) *

Interesting, a post like that obviously screams for attention. I would now not pick CMH to win anything but an infighting game. Shocking that a teammate would come out on a public forum and bash/not defend/ or plain not just say anything. Perhaps a partial reason why they struggled against KM?

Every year there are great games at state that are not the state championship game. Look at Shorewood/Marquette game last year. It happens every year in every sport, basketball being the worst. The only good thing is that the sectional match-ups change every year. Hopefully as more boys' team form, the problem of "unfair" match-ups dissipates. I said before, no one wants to play Marquette until the Championship game, because when you lose to them there, it's O.K.

Picks: Tremper over CMH in 5, Marquette over Appl. North in 4, but I'm rooting for Appl. North, T.E. over Middleton, great job to make it to State, Homestead over Greenfield. Homestead vs Marquette in the finals, with Marquette winning again.


wow mask it seems like you think you know everything... but you dont... when we step on that court its totaly differnt it doesnt matter who your playing with as long as you are playing as a team not a individual. and its just like everything else everything is a bigger deal then it is.... do i believe you will be wrong on your picks cause im not going to let something stupid like this make us lose... idc what pple think but i tell you it will all change when state comes.

P.S. if you believe everything on this forum then wow....
Kampy
QUOTE(muskego_libero_5 @ Nov 4 2006, 10:35 PM) *

fine if u wanna be a ****** about it, go ahead, pretty sure u'd be pissed too if u lost going to state by 2 frickin points.

w/e guys



i guess pissing people off is your speacialty bryan. laugh.gif
ReyReyXI
QUOTE(muskego_libero_5 @ Nov 4 2006, 11:35 PM) *

fine if u wanna be a ****** about it, go ahead, pretty sure u'd be pissed too if u lost going to state by 2 frickin points.

w/e guys
yeah i totally respect the fact that your mad for losing by 2 points, i don't blame you for being pissed, i would be too. but posting it multiple times??? that gets a little repetitive and annoying.

QUOTE(CEsser1990 @ Nov 5 2006, 12:00 AM) *

wow mask it seems like you think you know everything... but you dont... when we step on that court its totaly differnt it doesnt matter who your playing with as long as you are playing as a team not a individual. and its just like everything else everything is a bigger deal then it is.... do i believe you will be wrong on your picks cause im not going to let something stupid like this make us lose... idc what pple think but i tell you it will all change when state comes.

P.S. if you believe everything on this forum then wow....
chris has got a point mask, just because esser said that taylor's post was debatable doesn't mean that cmh is falling apart. i've seen and played cmh, and they have good chemistry on the court, tremper's just a bunch of farm boys with basketball warm ups on (haha scott just kidding), they won't lose to a low quality squad.
NSsetter4
QUOTE(ReyReyXI @ Nov 5 2006, 03:04 AM) *

yeah i totally respect the fact that your mad for losing by 2 points, i don't blame you for being pissed, i would be too. but posting it multiple times??? that gets a little repetitive and annoying.


No offense Rey, but I don't think its anyone's place to tell others on this website what to post and what not to post. I know I'm being kind of hypocritical by telling you not to post stuff, but deal with it. I recall you posting a bunch of random, stupid ****** on this website before the season started and during the season. There are tons of posts that nobody cares about reading. I've made plenty of them. Just don't read them.
North Shore Setter
QUOTE(NSsetter4 @ Nov 5 2006, 01:09 AM) *

No offense Rey, but I don't think its anyone's place to tell others on this website what to post and what not to post. I know I'm being kind of hypocritical by telling you not to post stuff, but deal with it. I recall you posting a bunch of random, stupid ****** on this website before the season started and during the season. There are tons of posts that nobody cares about reading. I've made plenty of them. Just don't read them.


THANK YOU MICHAEL HUTZ man, he is back, hutz is in loyola, but hutz is respected and speaks the truth, rey, mind ur business and if u dont like people repetiting posts than dont read it and move on!!

Tremper Volleyball
#5

Picks, who does everyone to pick to win each match and who do you think will be the 2006 Wisconsin Men's Volleyball State Champions?

Tremper Volleyball
#5
muskego_libero_5
QUOTE(ReyReyXI @ Nov 5 2006, 01:07 AM) *

yeah i totally respect the fact that your mad for losing by 2 points, i don't blame you for being pissed, i would be too. but posting it multiple times??? that gets a little repetitive and annoying.



yea, sry, i bet it did get annoying....

i'll stop sry
CEsser1990
QUOTE(North Shore Setter @ Nov 5 2006, 03:40 AM) *

THANK YOU MICHAEL HUTZ man, he is back, hutz is in loyola, but hutz is respected and speaks the truth, rey, mind ur business and if u dont like people repetiting posts than dont read it and move on!!

Tremper Volleyball
#5

Picks, who does everyone to pick to win each match and who do you think will be the 2006 Wisconsin Men's Volleyball State Champions?

Tremper Volleyball
#5



Its to close of a call i personly think everyone can be beatin...
ReyReyXI
okay anyways...
i feel that appleton north will upset marquette in 5, after losing to them twice already this year, i think that north will pull through this time.
oldnews
QUOTE(ReyReyXI @ Nov 5 2006, 11:25 AM) *

okay anyways...
i feel that appleton north will upset marquette in 5, after losing to them twice already this year, i think that north will pull through this time.

Barring injury Marquette should roll over Appleton North. I don't think Marquette will win in 3, but I'm gonna say Marquette in 4, maybe five. Larry has seen Appleton North I believe twice already, if Marquette executes Appleton North shouldn't be a problem, but I'm looking forward to the game.
MUWarriorz10
I don't wanna comment abbout my side of the tournament, but i will comment on the other side

Marquette over Appleton North in 3
I don't understand what all the hype is abbout about how this match determines state. Larry is too good of a coach to win twice and then lose a third time. I guarentee Marquette will come out running plays and playing a defense that takes away all north has. Appleton North has gained some of my respect, and congrats on making it to state. But i really think that those coming expecting to see a state championship caliber match will be dissapointed.

Tosa East over Middleton in 3

Should be another blowout if tosa can stay focused, which i think they've proven they can do. Congrats to the middleton coach on making it this far, but tosa east has to many weapons and will absolutly tear apart middletons block.

Semifinals:

This is the match i think will be completely and unbelievably intense
Tosa East over Marquette in 5
Tosa East has so many players that are fueled by adrenoline (spelling??) And when they get hot, they are dangerous. If they bring as many fans to this match as they did to the tosa vs tosa match i think that they will be able to carry their momentum and win in 5. IF, and only if, however, they can recover when they lose a game. If someones gonna beat marquette, itst gonna be in 5 games, and itst gonna come down to whoever can keep on comin on when they are down.

So Tosa East vs. ??? in the finals is my guess.

jsmack8
QUOTE(CEsser1990 @ Nov 5 2006, 01:00 AM) *

wow mask it seems like you think you know everything... but you dont... when we step on that court its totaly differnt it doesnt matter who your playing with as long as you are playing as a team not a individual. and its just like everything else everything is a bigger deal then it is.... do i believe you will be wrong on your picks cause im not going to let something stupid like this make us lose... idc what pple think but i tell you it will all change when state comes.

P.S. if you believe everything on this forum then wow....


my impression was that he was saying "thats DIbatable" as a joke with taylor... i guess two teamates could probobly joke around a little?
if im wrong.. i still dont think esser saying that would make them lose to middleton.
jmcdubz004
I think that thte winner of the Marquette-North quarter final will win it all. The only way north lost any tournaments this year, was because they get eliminated by marquette, i don't see how you gusy can say they'll roll over them, considering marquette barely squeeked a win over them at homestead(winning the third game 14-16)...I thnk i'm gonna go tot he famous saying, you guys think they'll win cuz they played north 2 times already, i'm gonna use the saying...."it's hard to beat somoene 3 times in one season"
btown2
where is everyone playing club...and where did they play club last year

i played jrs last year and am playing sw 16s this year
sublime40oz2freedom
i played norths hore 18s last year.....and im playing north shore 18s this year....deja vu? hope we can get better then 5th this time at nationals

btw mike i never got to say congrats on making all tourney team last year.
trackstar07
im really not sure why everyone is so quick to write off appleton north, they might be one of the most athletic teams in this tournament and play with an intensity that is very difficult to match. Dont get me wrong i still think marquette will beat them (most liekly in 5) but saying that they will roll over them is a huge mistake. The two teams played at homestead and it was one of the most intense matches ive ever seen (with marquette losing the first game then winning 26-28ish and 16-14. Some of the rallys in that match were unbelievable. This should be the best game in the tournament (perhaps second only to the TE MUHs semifinal)
sublime40oz2freedom
ive noticed something over the past couple days. this forum is really split on not only the marquette anorth game and anorth as a team. it seems like half the people think they will win half think they will lose. even though 98% are cheering for them. i really dont know who will win the match all i can do is cheer...if i attend that one.
Brauner4
Wow Mike thats acutally a very good point, i didn't notice that till now.
sublime40oz2freedom
thanks lol. its what happens when you dont have vball anymore
ReyReyXI
QUOTE(oldnews @ Nov 5 2006, 01:41 PM) *

Barring injury Marquette should roll over Appleton North. I don't think Marquette will win in 3, but I'm gonna say Marquette in 4, maybe five. Larry has seen Appleton North I believe twice already, if Marquette executes Appleton North shouldn't be a problem, but I'm looking forward to the game.
well of course YOU of all people would be the first to say me wrong.
btown2
who do u think will get player of the year
fall7standup8
QUOTE(btown2 @ Nov 5 2006, 07:15 PM) *

who do u think will get player of the year

I think it will be whoever won Player of the Year in the Greater Metro Conference (and I know who it is, I just don't believe it's supposed to be out yet and I'm not sure if he has found out yet, so that's not for me to let people know who it is.)

If that player does know who he is, congratulations to you.
Brauner4
I would love to see Kevin Get it. But Tim Walker is just as deserving of it as Kevin would be.

Anyone else have ideas?
beast5
had tosa west made it to state, i think kevin would have a good chance of winning POY. but since he couldn't get them there, i think that will decrease his chances. i think meyer is the leading candidate at this point, and if he can lead them to a few more wins, i think he's got it for sure.
PXILibero2
QUOTE(beast5 @ Nov 5 2006, 06:23 PM) *

had tosa west made it to state, i think kevin would have a good chance of winning POY. but since he couldn't get them there, i think that will decrease his chances. i think meyer is the leading candidate at this point, and if he can lead them to a few more wins, i think he's got it for sure.



I think state voting is already done, or just about to be done. They don't know who's at state when the voting occurs, because it's announced at the quarterfinals.
beast5
oh really? well then disregard my comment haha. but i still think steve meyer is the leading candidate.

by the way, it was nice seeing you at mr. sinclair's wake, dan. i'm sure it meant a lot to andy for you to be there.
PXILibero2
QUOTE(beast5 @ Nov 5 2006, 06:37 PM) *

oh really? well then disregard my comment haha. but i still think steve meyer is the leading candidate.

by the way, it was nice seeing you at mr. sinclair's wake, dan. i'm sure it meant a lot to andy for you to be there.



I was real impressed to see the entire team there in uniform. When I got to the front of the line (after 2 hours...) I talked to him about that and how cool it was, and he said he really appreciated it.

Andy and I went to grade school and grew up together, so I definitely needed to be there for him.
beast5
QUOTE(PXILibero2 @ Nov 5 2006, 06:45 PM) *

I was real impressed to see the entire team there in uniform. When I got to the front of the line (after 2 hours...) I talked to him about that and how cool it was, and he said he really appreciated it.

Andy and I went to grade school and grew up together, so I definitely needed to be there for him.

he's had a tough year and we wanted to show him we were all there for him together. he's handled the whole situation very well, but one can never have enough support.
MUWarriorz10
Umm player of the year???

Dan Kowalske anyone???

haha as much as i would LOVE to see that happen, sorry dan, i gotta go with steve on this. Steve takes over matches and dominates, and just overall i think has more of a presence than kevin. I think steve takes it.
PXILibero2
QUOTE(MUWarriorz10 @ Nov 5 2006, 07:24 PM) *

Umm player of the year???

Dan Kowalske anyone???

haha as much as i would LOVE to see that happen, sorry dan, i gotta go with steve on this. Steve takes over matches and dominates, and just overall i think has more of a presence than kevin. I think steve takes it.



Oh God... I'd get hunted down and murdered if that happened. Pretty sure that wouldn't be fair. I play in the freaking back row.

I'm going to agree with what Foley said earlier, in terms of who will win POY.
MUWarriorz10
I got a game to play on this longggggg week. All we ever do is complain about how unfair the sectionals are.
So, given that we know all of the teams that are in the state, and for the purposes of the game we can assume that there are no new teams next year, make your own sectionals. You can base them on location, on talent, on wahtever im just interested to see what people over as a valid solution to the unfair sectional crisis...

and yes dan, you are now clear to dominate this game.
PXILibero2
QUOTE(MUWarriorz10 @ Nov 6 2006, 09:52 AM) *

I got a game to play on this longggggg week. All we ever do is complain about how unfair the sectionals are.
So, given that we know all of the teams that are in the state, and for the purposes of the game we can assume that there are no new teams next year, make your own sectionals. You can base them on location, on talent, on wahtever im just interested to see what people over as a valid solution to the unfair sectional crisis...

and yes dan, you are now clear to dominate this game.



WOO HOO!!

Umm... actually, I think the sectionals should rotate every year. Take the top 16 teams in the state, as determined by the coach's rankings (the top 10, then the honorable mention teams that receive votes) and seed them 1-16. Seed the top 2 teams in each sectional based on this. Use the serpentine method, so #1-8
will get the first seed in their sectionals, and the #9 team will be with #8, #10 and #7, etc.

Now, fill in the rest of the teams based on geographic necessity to fill out the sectionals.

Next, I must note that there will not be a set sectional final site. Home court was earned through play during the season. The higher seed deserves a home match with home fans for the sectional final.

Then, the state tournament bracket would shape up as follows -

Left side: 1 v. 8; 4 v. 5
Right side: 2 v. 7; 3 v. 6


This would ensure that if the top 2 teams would not be forced to play each other before the state championship.


I'm sure there's holes in my theory, but all in all, I think it's pretty solid for creating it in 10 minutes on a Monday afternoon. Please, no applause.
MUWarriorz10
I think that would work... but what about teams that are stacked with seniors. Not to take anything away from Case, but look at them last year, state semifinals... and this year they only had a 4 seed in their sectionals.... now regardless they upset park but noone expected them to do this. I think that we should use that method, but determine the sectionals after the season is almost over. They would be released at the same time, and teams could have the same amount of time to prepare...

why are you home dan?
to cool for school?

btw.. im totally sitting next to THE Matt Mohorek... :-D
btown2
QUOTE(MUWarriorz10 @ Nov 6 2006, 04:02 PM) *

now regardless they upset case but noone expected them to do this.



case played themselves?
haha i think u mean they upset park
MUWarriorz10
QUOTE(btown2 @ Nov 6 2006, 02:08 PM) *

case played themselves?
haha i think u mean they upset park


umm...no it says park...

... thank god for quick edits hahaha
fall7standup8
QUOTE(MUWarriorz10 @ Nov 6 2006, 04:02 PM) *

why are you home dan?
to cool for school?

No, Dan is home from school because Pius has a really sweet schedule that has us out of school by 1:12 once every 6 school days, today being that 1 day. Classes also only meet 4 days for every 6 days of school, meaning less homework and more time to do the homework.

All of this equates to Pat Foley's current GPA being slightly above a 3.9 biggrin.gif
PXILibero2
QUOTE(MUWarriorz10 @ Nov 6 2006, 02:02 PM) *

I think that would work... but what about teams that are stacked with seniors. Not to take anything away from Case, but look at them last year, state semifinals... and this year they only had a 4 seed in their sectionals.... now regardless they upset park but noone expected them to do this. I think that we should use that method, but determine the sectionals after the season is almost over. They would be released at the same time, and teams could have the same amount of time to prepare...

why are you home dan?
to cool for school?

btw.. im totally sitting next to THE Matt Mohorek... :-D



That's my idea. Use the last coach's poll before sectionals to determine the sectional alignment, based on performance in conference/big tournaments all year long.

I'm home because I'm a senior, and I have privelages. biggrin.gif
Brauner4
hahaha Matt finally got his name on the forum i bet he's super pumped! haha
MUWarriorz10
Haha i was posting and Matt was like, "Rob your such a voice of reason on the forum.... you speak like a professional," and then he went on to tell me about his dream of one day getting written in the forum about someone he doesn't know.

Well you're in the forum buddy, now you just gotta own at state and everyone will be talking about you.
5balls
QUOTE(PXILibero2 @ Nov 5 2006, 08:27 PM) *

I think state voting is already done, or just about to be done. They don't know who's at state when the voting occurs, because it's announced at the quarterfinals.

Yea I Think you may be right. I ran into Ric Meyer and he made it sound like it was a done deal that Steve will get poy, but I could be wrong
jmcdubz004
I agree with the fact that the sectional final should have home court...for some crazy reason, North had the 1 seed, but becaue it was determined earlier, had to play kimberly, at kimberly...kinda stupid if you ask me.
sublime40oz2freedom
i dont think its very fair for a team to have home court in sectional finals. cause i bet if we played greenfield at case that game would have been different. but that also may be casue greenfield is so damn loud
greenfield08
QUOTE(sublime40oz2freedom @ Nov 6 2006, 05:58 PM) *

i dont think its very fair for a team to have home court in sectional finals. cause i bet if we played greenfield at case that game would have been different. but that also may be casue greenfield is so damn loud



ha yeah if you would have played at greenfield any other time than in the playoffs there is no one there.
but luckily sectionals were home and we got a ton of people to come and they went crazy

it still was a really good match too, 30-28 that was crazy
sublime40oz2freedom
yeah besides that fourth game it was a great match and i enjoyed it.
PXILibero2
Since we haven't done this since... before midseason even, anyone want to give their position rankings now that we're near the end of the year, and have plenty to work with?
ParkHi
ok.. dan your picks?
PXILibero2
QUOTE(ParkHi @ Nov 6 2006, 10:18 PM) *

ok.. dan your picks?



Not me first this time.... last time I went first, and either my list was so good, or everyone was so lazy, but people all felt the need to agree with me. I have my ideas. I'll share them later. It's someone else's turn.
ParkHi
ha ha alright.. well

LIBERO:, im gonna go with dan koala. he pretty much dominated this catigory, followed by tosa's libero.

OUTSIDE: im still gonna have to go with kevin, he had a stellar 4 years of HS volleyball, followed by Meyer, and then Oswald, then brigson. and i really think taylor should be on here... kid hardly ever gets blocked.

MIDDLE: charlie B from homestead. Esser and unfortunately i have yet to catch a marquette game, but i heard there talented in both this catigory and the outside.

RIGHTSIDE: Walker, and rey, only cause we need a black man on the list. ha ha. just kidding we all know u have amazing ups and a real skill for the game.

SETTER: Shinner, CMH hands... dont feel like killin his last name... then scott from tremper, the kid can fool anyone.

yeah dont feel bad, this list is horrible... this is the john baker was bored list. and being first isnt the best either.

i missed people too, and sorry about that.
oldnews
QUOTE(PXILibero2 @ Nov 6 2006, 10:20 PM) *

Not me first this time.... last time I went first, and either my list was so good, or everyone was so lazy, but people all felt the need to agree with me. I have my ideas. I'll share them later. It's someone else's turn.

Yeah I heard Steve got the nod for player of the year. Again thats a pretty safe pick. There was no one player that really grabbed anyones attention this year at least from my perspective. Ciracks, Walker, and Meyer could have been equally deserving, but someone has to win.

QUOTE(ParkHi @ Nov 6 2006, 10:33 PM) *

ha ha alright.. well

LIBERO:, im gonna go with dan koala. he pretty much dominated this catigory, followed by tosa's libero.

OUTSIDE: im still gonna have to go with kevin, he had a stellar 4 years of HS volleyball, followed by Meyer, and then Oswald, then brigson. and i really think taylor should be on here... kid hardly ever gets blocked.

MIDDLE: charlie B from homestead. Esser and unfortunately i have yet to catch a marquette game, but i heard there talented in both this catigory and the outside.

RIGHTSIDE: Walker, and rey, only cause we need a black man on the list. ha ha. just kidding we all know u have amazing ups and a real skill for the game.

SETTER: Shinner, CMH hands... dont feel like killin his last name... then scott from tremper, the kid can fool anyone.

yeah dont feel bad, this list is horrible... this is the john baker was bored list. and being first isnt the best either.

i missed people too, and sorry about that.


For the Libero I'm not gonna rate anyone because I don't know enough of them

Outside: I would have to agree. Kevin has been the most constant for his entire career considering his limited ceiling. The man is a hard worker. Steve has improved from last year especially in the footwork. He is flashier than Kevin, but I don't believe not as constant.

Middle: I have to disagree. I don't think any middle jumped out at me this year. This class with an off year for big powerful middles, not to downplay anyone. Charlie, Esser and Fro all had good years, but I don't think any team had a truly feared middle.

Rightside: Walker had a excellent year and really improved in his role as rightside. I had my doubts, but he really rose to the challenge.

Setter: There was no one who was Hutz caliber, but Shinner and a few others had solid years.


Overall I think this year had more dominant outsides than middles by a fairly wide margin, which has been the trend for the last five years or so.
ParkHi
also, both tosa middles i thought did a great job, at least against us.. really took over the game and shut us down... luke and the other guy.
PXILibero2
QUOTE(ParkHi @ Nov 6 2006, 10:44 PM) *

also, both tosa middles i thought did a great job, at least against us.. really took over the game and shut us down... luke and the other guy.



"That other guy" = Kurt Svatek!! smile.gif
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